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 JDH
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I just got my first sidecar rig Monday. A 07 ultra with a 92 HD sidecar installed by harley dealership. I currently have (2) 60 lb sand bags in it. Our daughter goes around 130. What is a safe weight limit for this? Been riding for almost 40 yrs.


 
Posted : April 12, 2017 7:21 pm
(@2graves)
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JDH
I too have been riding 40 yrs. Over the years I've had 3 H-Ds with sidecars.
I don't know the official stated weight capacity however in my opinion the 2 sandbags and your daughter = 250lbs, will be right at the limit.I have a 2010 Electra Glide with a 97 H-D hack, with my wife and enough gear for a 2 week trip in the back and on a luggage rack mounted on the sidecar we are close to 200lbs. without any adverse handling issues.
I weigh about 250lbs. when my wife is the pilot and I am in the hack she doesn't have any problems with handling.
Keep in mind with your daughter in it without the sandbags it may raise the sidecar wheel in right turns.
That being said once you get accustomed to the general handling of your rig there is less chance of that happening.
Enjoy the ride!


 
Posted : April 12, 2017 8:59 pm
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A test I often try is to:
- Load your tug and car with the weight you expect to carry.
- Stand on the LEFT foot peg with your RIGHT foot.
- Grab the handlebars with both hands.
- Lean your body to the left, extending your left leg out as far to the left as is safe.
- If the car picks up "easily", you need more ballast
- Don't refer to your wife or daughter as "ballast"

Like many things in sidecaring, there are no rules! It will be different for each rig, each driver and each loading. You'll eventually refine your "butt sensor" to know if the "feel" is right for that that day, that minute, that weather, that road, that turn...


 
Posted : April 13, 2017 3:38 am
(@2graves)
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Good tip. I will have to try it.
Thanks


 
Posted : April 13, 2017 3:56 am
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my champion escort says capacity is 450 pounds. I gotta think your HD sidecar should be able to at least get close to that. certainly I would guess that the 250 you are talking about could be handled. FWIW, I carry 100 pounds, but remove it any time I plan to have a passenger.
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Posted : April 13, 2017 5:46 am
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I'm not sure how helpful this will be, but I'll post these anyway. First is a page from the 2005 Harley sidecar service manual. The service manual only has this information, gross vehicle and axle weights, not specific load capacity for the sidecar. The second page is from an RLE sidecar owner's manual (the sidecar model they mounted to 1980's FXRT) That page gives you some general loading guidelines but the numbers won't be right for your combination. You can probably find a sidecar owner's manual on eBay that will give you the information for your bike's year.

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Posted : April 13, 2017 12:05 pm
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Great info.
Hey davet I installed the sidecar I bought from you last Jan and love it.
Just recently registered on the forum. Great resource for info.

Tom


 
Posted : April 13, 2017 1:06 pm
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Hi Tom, I'm glad the sidecar is working out well for you. There is a lot of good information available here, many experienced sidecar people. Dave


 
Posted : April 13, 2017 1:24 pm
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Having a shock on the axle would sure be nice.
Where did you or do you know where I might find a frame like you have, I believe it was a LAX?
That is the only issue I see with the H-D sidecars.
When I was younger it wasn't a big deal, but now at 65 it would be nice.
Tom


 
Posted : April 14, 2017 7:39 am
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Hi Tom, I will send you a private message so we don't clog up this guy's thread. Thanks, Dave


 
Posted : April 14, 2017 9:47 am
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davet - 4/14/2017 2:47 PM Hi Tom, I will send you a private message so we don't clog up this guy's thread. Thanks, Dave

Please just start another thread. It sounds like there is something to be learned there.


 
Posted : April 15, 2017 5:21 am
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Not so sure its worth another thread. Tom is not as familiar with the other sidecar makers who have done Harleys so that's all the information he probably needs. Freedom, DMC, Liberty, mine is an Lak sidecar from the Netherlands. I know there are other sidecars attached to Harleys, these I mentioned are the ones that come to mind with body designs that are kind of traditional Harley-ish.


 
Posted : April 15, 2017 2:03 pm
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OK, I'll have to look up Lac.

Thanks


 
Posted : April 16, 2017 5:31 am