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(@green-sidecar)
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I have a 1996 Harley Dyna Super Glide with Hannigan Sidecar. My clutch lever pull has always required a lot of effort. I am now almost 69 and it is really getting difficult. I have used the Mueller ball and ramp and the Easy Clutch devices in the past before I had a Baker Reverse installed. Unfortunately, there is no room in the Baker transmission side cover for either of those devices. I have a Motion Pro Clutch Cable installed and I have lubed it well with cable lubricant. I have adjusted the clutch and the clutch cable as per the shop manual. Still, the clutch pull is hard for me to do and I can only manage short rides. The only solution to me seems to extend the clutch lever and handlebar to give me a better lever arm advantage. Has anyone ever tried this or know of any way to make the clutch pull easier? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank You!

 
Posted : June 16, 2024 3:18 pm
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(@ned)
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First thing I think I'd do is get me down to the nearest Harley dealer and sit on a bunch of used bikes to see what the clutch pulls are like. If your bike is a lot harder, then there's something wrong with your bike that needs to be diagnosed and fixed.  If your bike is about the same as all the others then, yeah, you need to find some way reduce the pull.

Have owned 5 rigs but Rig #2 is the one I drive!

 
Posted : June 16, 2024 7:42 pm
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(@green-sidecar)
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Thank You DRONE. I will do that for comparison and see what I find. 🙂

 
Posted : June 16, 2024 8:08 pm
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(@miles-ladue)
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Thomas,  you can also look for a  dog leg clutch  lever, as there are some that are  specifically  designed to  lessen the  pull needed. It's a  matter of  angle,  and how it is  applied. 

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Posted : June 16, 2024 8:22 pm
(@2FLTC)
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I don't know if a motion pro clutch cable is Teflon lined. I know the Harley a Barnett are which makes it easier to pull. The other thing is you might be able to use a lighter clutch spring just as long it does not slip.  

 
Posted : June 17, 2024 7:28 am
(@green-sidecar)
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@miles-ladue Thanks for the advice. I will look into that!

 
Posted : June 17, 2024 9:43 am
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(@green-sidecar)
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@2FLTC I don't know either. I will have to try to find out. Thanks for the suggestion!

 
Posted : June 17, 2024 9:46 am
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(@scott-h)
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Might consider a hydraulic conversion like this, if you can't find a better mechanical solution.

https://www.vipcycle.com/hydraulic-clutch-kit-v-factor-for-harley-big-twin-dyna-electra-glide-hd-45380-02c/

Magura also has kits, but not sure if they have a direct fit for your bike.

Best of luck on this. 

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Posted : June 18, 2024 7:40 pm
(@brstr)
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Nearly 69 eh?

Poor old thing you.........

Wait!

Mine is  in August.

When did that happen???

Just do what it takes to sort the clutch and ride on.

 
Posted : June 19, 2024 12:23 am
Thomas Fogarty, sheath, Thane Lewis and 1 people reacted
(@green-sidecar)
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Thanks to all for the suggestions. My clutch pull seems to be the same as other Harley mechanical clutch levers. I switched out the Motion Pro cable for a Barnett, telfon lined. May have helped a little but not much. I called Baker to see if I could get the hydraulic sidecover for my Baker reverse. They no longer make the Baker reverse I had installed in 2017 and do not have parts for that unit. So, unfortunately I cannot switch to hydraulic clutch. My plan now is to increase the length of the lever and the handlebar on the left side for improved leverage.

 
Posted : July 1, 2024 9:30 am
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(@ben-franklin)
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Suicide clutch, and a tank shifter! basic_smile  

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Posted : July 1, 2024 11:04 am
(@scott-h)
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Posted by: @green-sidecar

Thanks to all for the suggestions. My clutch pull seems to be the same as other Harley mechanical clutch levers. I switched out the Motion Pro cable for a Barnett, telfon lined. May have helped a little but not much. I called Baker to see if I could get the hydraulic sidecover for my Baker reverse. They no longer make the Baker reverse I had installed in 2017 and do not have parts for that unit. So, unfortunately I cannot switch to hydraulic clutch. My plan now is to increase the length of the lever and the handlebar on the left side for improved leverage.

the good part of this is you'll never have to bleed your clutch. 

Would it be possible to make a new shorter cable from the perch, that connects to the easy pull, and then a cable that connects the easy pull to the clutch housing/arm.  I've had Motion Pro do custom cables in the past (sent them drawings to work from).  Was fairly reasonable in cost.  Not sure if they still do this.   Even if you had to fabricate a bracket for the easy pull to fasten to, the nice part is you can create pretty much any routing you like.  Although the shorter the better.

There are a few cable mfgs that do custom cable work.  I just did a google search and came up with this.  Probably more if I didn't include "Harley" in the search:  https://www.google.com/search?q=custom+clutch+cable+kit+for+harley+davidson&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=3dde2fcdc36845ac&ei=EtqCZoTXOObGkPIPjImq4A8&oq=custom+clutch+cable+kit&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiF2N1c3RvbSBjbHV0Y2ggY2FibGUga2l0KgIIATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigAUiGZFCBBFiWTXACeAGQAQCYAXagAf4PqgEEMjIuMrgBAcgBAPgBAZgCGqAClxLCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIKEC4YgAQYQxiKBcICBRAuGIAEwgIREC4YgAQYsQMY0QMYgwEYxwHCAgUQABiABMICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICERAuGIAEGJECGNEDGMcBGIoFwgILEC4YgAQY0QMYxwHCAg0QLhiABBhDGOUEGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIGEAAYFhgewgIIEAAYFhgeGA_CAgUQIRifBZgDAIgGAZAGCJIHBDIxLjWgB-iqAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Something I found from my off-road racing days is ensuring a correct wrist angle and finger stretch to the "activation area" at the lever was important for comfort.  I've had a few lever/bars that created terrible arm pump.  Once corrected, even though the pull was heavier it was less tiresome.

Keeping paws crossed you find a solution.  I put a "one finger clutch kit" on the KTM 390 Adventure, and really appreciated how progressive the clutch was after install.  Not only was it easier to pull, it was easier to modulate with the broader engagement point.  Hope you can find a similar resolution. 🍻

 

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Posted : July 1, 2024 11:51 am
(@brstr)
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@ben-franklin 

Is that a foot clutch and hand shifter?

Work sort of OK on a sidecar?

Reminds me off a favourite picture I saw. 

A woman racing a hand change hard tail Harley.

She was sideways  in a corner and changing gears whilst steering one handed.

Looking totally cool in the process. 

 
Posted : July 2, 2024 10:05 pm
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(@ben-franklin)
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@brstr Yep, that was what I was thinking.  The retrofit would not be all that difficult to create a hand shifter, if there isn't already an off the shelf unit.  Foot clutch would be easy and allow for plenty of leverage and control.

 
Posted : July 3, 2024 12:51 am
(@2FLTC)
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Take a look at a VPI clutch pressure plate kit by AIM. I install a couple in high HP Harleys and the pull is about 30% lighter than stock basically a 2 finger pull. and still handles the power without slipping.  

 
Posted : July 3, 2024 7:22 am
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