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(@cms062407)
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@andrew-baker I disconnected both items last night just to make sure they weren't interfering with anything. Unfortunately, no difference was made.

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 2:41 pm
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Posted by: @cms062407

@andrew-baker You have overestimated my skills in checking electrical connections...I do have a multimeter, but I have no damned idea how to check the power on that 6-prong switch...I would imagine you would check two certain prongs at a time.

 

The bike doesn't need to be fully turned on and the engine running, just the key in the On position. I am testing it with the key in the On position.

 

Attach a picture of the switch, maybe we can figure out what's what from that.

 

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 3:09 pm
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Crisis may be fixed…will post an update once done wiring this back up….and yes, it was an absolute noob mistake if this is the case.

 

if it’s the issue I’ll post two different pictures and you all have to spot the difference lol.

 

i told you, wiring is not my thing….but lesson learned.

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 3:15 pm
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PROBLEM FIXED…dumb dumb issue. I can’t do a before and after because I didn’t take a photo when it was messed up….buttttt I had a set of wires on the negative terminal when they should’ve been on the positive terminal.

I’m surprised no fuses blew? But then again, I’m sure it’s quite simple why nothing blew and it’s my lack of knowledge as to why I don’t know why one didnt blow.

yes, I know…you can roast me. Here is the after picture…someday here soon I need to figure out someway to make this wiring look a bit more presentable.

the set of wires with the yellow connector at the end were connected to the negative terminal.

IMG 0082
 
Posted : October 17, 2024 3:31 pm
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 Drew
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Alright!  Everyone starts somewhere.

Chris 1, Electrickery 0

 

When I was in computers first thing we would tell folks - power and cables.  Always check them first.

 

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 4:13 pm
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Chris, congratulations on finding and fixing the issue.  The lessons from the self inflicted ones stay with you the longest!

You might consider a fuse box/relay panel like this one:

Eastern Beaver PC8

It would be a way to get most of the stuff off your battery connections.  I have run them on several Africa Twins with happy results.  The guy making them is in Japan and seems to have access to decent quality components.  Delivery is reasonably fast.

The box has a power and a ground lead, with a big fuse, either 30 amps or 50 amps, depending which one you select.  It also has a relay that triggers off the ignition circuit.  The relay gives you 6 circuits that are switched and fused to whatever size fuses you want to use, upto maybe 30 amps per circuit.  (No, you can't run 30 amps on each circuit simultaneously!!!)  It also gives you two unswitched (always hot) circuits to connect stuff that you don't want to go off when you turn the key off.

These things are not a necessity, but they do really help clean up crazy accessory wiring from prior owners and make trouble shooting mostly painless.

The one I have installed now runs my heated gear, some accessory connections, the camber control, and maybe the hot connection for the winch switch that goes to it's own big relay.

This thread, over on the Africa Twin forum goes into alot of detail with pictures on my installation on Black Betty (that sweet girl.) Here:

image

Left side are ground, right side are hot.  This pic is prior to connecting the accessories, just shows the unit wired in place and ready to connect to.  Fuses plug in to the middle, the micro size spade connector fuses.

The guy has a couple of customer installation videos up on his website that make it pretty easy.

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 5:18 pm
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Redirecting electrons is always a long process for us mortals.

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 5:36 pm
Thane Lewis
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Well, Chris, I had exactly the same issue with my former Royal Star Rig.  Except that EVERY SINGLE ADDED WIRE was the same color - red.  They could all reach either terminal as well.  And because there were often unintended gaps between repair events and sometimes whole winters, and because red in a cell phone pic is still... red, well....you understand.

Illegitemi non carborundum est!

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 6:01 pm
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See, you guys don't  need  me  at all.....to mess things up.

Chris,  go on Amazon,  look up Blue Sea electrical  panels.  You will  find the one you  want.

Yes, power the new Blue Sea electrical  panel  by connecting  it to the  switched  power at  + pole in the  accessory section of the  bike's  fuse panel

Drew.....Chris is  half our age, or.....one quarter of  yours and  mine combined ages, so he hasn't been  through the  deepest  trials and  errors of  life, so we may have a  lot of  hand holding  here.

BTW, 525 miles today....my house to Russell  Day  Long seats in Nor Cal.

Two Million Mile Rider...All 7 Continents
Exploring the World in Comfort

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 8:27 pm
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How was the wind, Miles?  Pretty brutal here - steady 25, gusting to 40.  Nasty fire watch and air is positively grey.  Only 10 miles each way, but getting battered like a mouse by a cat isn't much fun.

Illegitemi non carborundum est!

 
Posted : October 17, 2024 10:41 pm
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 Drew
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Posted by: @miles-ladue

Drew.....Chris is  half our age, or.....one quarter of  yours and  mine combined ages,

 

Wait a second.  I'm only 30 yrs old (in my head).  So if Chris is 1/4 of yours and my ages that would make him the same age as me.

 

 
Posted : October 18, 2024 9:05 am
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