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Steve Ives
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Morning guys an gals

My new helmet has a D ring fitted and i am wondering about the micro clip type as they are much easier to use, my D ring is pretty close to the left hand side of the helmet but i will use for awhile before i decide. Have you changed then over and what do you think ?

Making an assumption here that as long as you do not cut the strap in any was it will not effect your motorcycle insurance?

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Posted : October 20, 2024 10:57 am
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I have added the clip type fasteners to two of my wife's helmets and they add on to the existing strap.  Never had anyone question how the helmets fasten before so I can't speak to that.

I assume something like this is what you have in mind?  If so, they seem to use the un-modified straps which is a good thing.

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Posted : October 20, 2024 12:42 pm
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Steve already  knows  my thoughts on this,  as we emailed  about it  earlier.  I cut off the D rings, no damage to the web strapping,  then install  one of the  clip style  fasteners on  every  helmet  I have  used for the  past 50 years. 

It will  have  NO affect on your  insurance.  Besides,  with a sidecar rig,  there is very  little  chance of  your helmet  making contact with the  grill of a 1949 Mack truck.

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Posted : October 20, 2024 1:10 pm
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Great topic of discussion! 👍 

All the Arai helmets I've had/have use a very short strap on the D-ring side.  It is a pita with gloves on, but I've gotten used to it over the years. The Bell and Shoei helmets I've had/have utilize a longer strap on the D-ring side which is much easier to use.  Still I'd like to try the "clip" style when it's time for a new helmet.  I've seen a few with them installed by the oem.  But I'm really looking forward to a European market ECE 22.06 helmet, and haven't started looking at them yet.

No idea how installing a clip fastener would effect insurance.  Probably best to contact someone at your agency who is an actual rider, and understands what you are looking to do.  Interesting "Question and Answer" on this web page as to DOT "approved".  https://www.helmetshop.com/HELMET-QUICK-RELEASE_p_8.html

The Klim Krios Pro uses a magnetic buckle assembly which is interesting. Kind of snaps itself in place, and uses a red pull tab to unbuckle.  https://www.klim.com/Krios-Pro-Helmet-ECE-DOT-3610-000

 

Arai XD4 short strap.  Makes it really tough with gloves, and even more of a pita to snap the end of the strap back.  It doesn't look like Arai has changed this for the XD5 (it's part of their philosophy on safety).

Arai XD4 DOT Snell Sticker
Arai XD4 D Ring Strap

Bell Moto 9 Flex with longer strap and magnet (red diamond shaped piece) to hold the strap end looped back.  Much easier to deal with, but the magnet wants to attach to anything it can. 

Bell Moto 9 DOT Snell Stamp
Bell Moto 9 Flex Strap

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Posted : October 20, 2024 1:14 pm
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The ECHO helmet  chin strap buckle.

This is the  exact one I have  been  buying and  using for  decades.  It's  simple....it works !

I strongly  suggest that you  NOT mention  this to your  insurance company,  or ask  them, simply  because  insurance  companies  today  will  look for  any and every  excuse to  raise  your  rates....for  no reason. 

I am  TELLING  you.....this helmet  chin strap fastener will NOT  affect your  helmet worthiness  or abilities. Listen to the  olde man on this one.

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Posted : October 20, 2024 1:34 pm
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Hate D-rings.

As for insurance, if you are in the USA there is nothing in your policy that limits or excludes coverage based on clothing or gear.  The coverage is the same wether riding nude or riding full ATGATT.

 
Posted : October 20, 2024 4:57 pm
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@ned I think your concept of coverage is a tad screwed...

 
Posted : October 21, 2024 5:41 am
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Posted by: @ned

Hate D-rings.

The coverage is the same wether riding nude or riding full ATGATT.

I can tell you, from experience, that as a member of the NANMRA, we were still required to wear a helmet, if the state we were riding in required the wearing of helmets.

NANMRA = North America NUDE Motorcycle Riders Association

 

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Posted : October 21, 2024 7:37 am
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@ned Thank Goodness I thought I was going to have to give up riding nude there for a moment. 🤣

 
Posted : October 21, 2024 7:54 am
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@miles-ladue The comment to spawn a thousand quips and chuckles =)

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Posted : October 21, 2024 8:01 am
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@miles-ladue The comment to spawn a thousand quips and chuckles =)

Thou may quip, and thou may chuckle, butt (pun intended) the NANMRA is a real thing. (or was...a real thing)

We would use the 6.9 miles between Empire, Nevada and Gerlach, Nevada as the qualifying route. The rider was allowed to wear their helmet, and boots, and had to start in Empire, Nevada, and ride the scant (as in scantily clad) miles to Gerlach, Nevada, where a cheering crowd of onlookers was awaiting their arrival. Best done on dry days.

 

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Posted : October 21, 2024 9:03 am
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Posted by: @miles-ladue

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@miles-ladue The comment to spawn a thousand quips and chuckles =)

Thou may quip, and thou may chuckle, butt (pun intended) the NANMRA is a real thing. (or was...a real thing)

We would use the 6.9 miles between Empire, Nevada and Gerlach, Nevada as the qualifying route. The rider was allowed to wear their helmet, and boots, and had to start in Empire, Nevada, and ride the scant (as in scantily clad) miles to Gerlach, Nevada, where a cheering crowd of onlookers was awaiting their arrival. Best done on dry days.

 

Whole new level of road rash for the unlucky few.  😮 

 

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Posted : October 21, 2024 9:51 am
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Insurance cover for those who live so rashly?

 
Posted : October 21, 2024 12:40 pm
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@brstr Just the bare minimum =)

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Posted : October 24, 2024 8:30 pm
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