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Steve Ives
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Morning guys an gals

My new helmet has a D ring fitted and i am wondering about the micro clip type as they are much easier to use, my D ring is pretty close to the left hand side of the helmet but i will use for awhile before i decide. Have you changed then over and what do you think ?

Making an assumption here that as long as you do not cut the strap in any was it will not effect your motorcycle insurance?


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Posted : October 20, 2024 11:57 am
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I have added the clip type fasteners to two of my wife's helmets and they add on to the existing strap.Β  Never had anyone question how the helmets fasten before so I can't speak to that.

I assume something like this is what you have in mind?Β  If so, they seem to use the un-modified straps which is a good thing.

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Posted : October 20, 2024 1:42 pm
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Steve alreadyΒ  knowsΒ  my thoughts on this,Β  as we emailedΒ  about itΒ  earlier.Β  I cut off the D rings, no damage to the web strapping,Β  then installΒ  one of theΒ  clip styleΒ  fasteners onΒ  everyΒ  helmetΒ  I haveΒ  used for theΒ  past 50 years.Β 

It willΒ  haveΒ  NO affect on yourΒ  insurance.Β  Besides,Β  with a sidecar rig,Β  there is veryΒ  littleΒ  chance ofΒ  your helmetΒ  making contact with theΒ  grill of a 1949 Mack truck.


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Posted : October 20, 2024 2:10 pm
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Great topic of discussion! 👍Β 

All the Arai helmets I've had/have use a very short strap on the D-ring side.Β  It is a pita with gloves on, but I've gotten used to it over the years. The Bell and Shoei helmets I've had/have utilize a longer strap on the D-ring side which is much easier to use.Β  Still I'd like to try the "clip" style when it's time for a new helmet.Β  I've seen a few with them installed by the oem.Β  But I'm really looking forward to a European market ECE 22.06 helmet, and haven't started looking at them yet.

No idea how installing a clip fastener would effect insurance.Β  Probably best to contact someone at your agency who is an actual rider, and understands what you are looking to do.Β  Interesting "Question and Answer" on this web page as to DOT "approved".Β  https://www.helmetshop.com/HELMET-QUICK-RELEASE_p_8.html

The Klim Krios Pro uses a magnetic buckle assembly which is interesting. Kind of snaps itself in place, and uses a red pull tab to unbuckle.Β  https://www.klim.com/Krios-Pro-Helmet-ECE-DOT-3610-000

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Arai XD4 short strap.Β  Makes it really tough with gloves, and even more of a pita to snap the end of the strap back.Β  It doesn't look like Arai has changed this for the XD5 (it's part of their philosophy on safety).

Arai XD4 DOT Snell Sticker
Arai XD4 D Ring Strap

Bell Moto 9 Flex with longer strap and magnet (red diamond shaped piece) to hold the strap end looped back.Β  Much easier to deal with, but the magnet wants to attach to anything it can.Β 

Bell Moto 9 DOT Snell Stamp
Bell Moto 9 Flex Strap

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Posted : October 20, 2024 2:14 pm
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www.echoproducts.com

The ECHO helmetΒ  chin strap buckle.

This is theΒ  exact one I haveΒ  beenΒ  buying andΒ  using forΒ  decades.Β  It'sΒ  simple....it works !

I stronglyΒ  suggest that youΒ  NOT mentionΒ  this to yourΒ  insurance company,Β  or askΒ  them, simplyΒ  becauseΒ  insuranceΒ  companiesΒ  todayΒ  willΒ  look forΒ  any and everyΒ  excuse toΒ  raiseΒ  yourΒ  rates....forΒ  no reason.Β 

I amΒ  TELLINGΒ  you.....this helmetΒ  chin strap fastener will NOTΒ  affect yourΒ  helmet worthinessΒ  or abilities. Listen to theΒ  olde man on this one.


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Posted : October 20, 2024 2:34 pm
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Hate D-rings.

As for insurance, if you are in the USA there is nothing in your policy that limits or excludes coverage based on clothing or gear.Β  The coverage is the same wether riding nude or riding full ATGATT.


 
Posted : October 20, 2024 5:57 pm
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@ned I think your concept of coverage is a tad screwed...


 
Posted : October 21, 2024 6:41 am
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Posted by: @ned

Hate D-rings.

The coverage is the same wether riding nude or riding full ATGATT.

I can tell you, from experience, that as a member of the NANMRA, we were still required to wear a helmet, if the state we were riding in required the wearing of helmets.

NANMRA = North America NUDE Motorcycle Riders Association

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Posted : October 21, 2024 8:37 am
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@ned Thank Goodness I thought I was going to have to give up riding nude there for a moment. 🤣


 
Posted : October 21, 2024 8:54 am
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@miles-ladue The comment to spawn a thousand quips and chuckles =)


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Posted : October 21, 2024 9:01 am
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@miles-ladue The comment to spawn a thousand quips and chuckles =)

Thou may quip, and thou may chuckle, butt (pun intended) the NANMRA is a real thing. (or was...a real thing)

We would use the 6.9 miles between Empire, Nevada and Gerlach, Nevada as the qualifying route. The rider was allowed to wear their helmet, and boots, and had to start in Empire, Nevada, and ride the scant (as in scantily clad) miles to Gerlach, Nevada, where a cheering crowd of onlookers was awaiting their arrival. Best done on dry days.

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Posted : October 21, 2024 10:03 am
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Posted by: @miles-ladue

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@miles-ladue The comment to spawn a thousand quips and chuckles =)

Thou may quip, and thou may chuckle, butt (pun intended) the NANMRA is a real thing. (or was...a real thing)

We would use the 6.9 miles between Empire, Nevada and Gerlach, Nevada as the qualifying route. The rider was allowed to wear their helmet, and boots, and had to start in Empire, Nevada, and ride the scant (as in scantily clad) miles to Gerlach, Nevada, where a cheering crowd of onlookers was awaiting their arrival. Best done on dry days.

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Whole new level of road rash for the unlucky few.Β  😮Β 

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Posted : October 21, 2024 10:51 am
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Insurance cover for those who live so rashly?


 
Posted : October 21, 2024 1:40 pm
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@brstr Just the bare minimum =)


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Posted : October 24, 2024 9:30 pm
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