Mike
I didn't realize you wouldn't have room to use the webbing, not real familiar with the 1100. on the 1500 that webbing comes down below the seat. I have to say that set up you are using looks pretty good. My only concerns are the angle it's at is going to cause constant side forces on the frame tube and the fact that you drilled through the tube has created a weak point. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear in time that tube will crack or even break
if this is the MV clamp you have on the front you shouldn't have to worry about it rotating, that's the one I had on the 1500 and it is rock solid.
Mike
I didn't realize you wouldn't have room to use the webbing, not real familiar with the 1100. on the 1500 that webbing comes down below the seat. I have to say that set up you are using looks pretty good. My only concerns are the angle it's at is going to cause constant side forces on the frame tube and the fact that you drilled through the tube has created a weak point. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear in time that tube will crack or even break
if this is the MV clamp you have on the front you shouldn't have to worry about it rotating, that's the one I had on the 1500 and it is rock solid.
I've owned several 1500's and that webbing area is quite larger and easier to access than on the GL1000 or the GL1100. I wish someone would come forward with some pics of that certain mount on the GL1000. With long term usage testimony.
I have seen several pictures of that specific mount being done similar to what I am doing, but none any other way....Yep, that one is not the one I am the most proud of, but I took pics I found and tried to improve it a bit. IF, IF it were to ever crack or break, my idea is to make a plate that covers that ENTIRE side of the bike, the area were the side cover usually goes. have it to where the rear master cyl can still be accessed, Paint/stripe it to match the bike, then weld that mount to the plate. Just did not want to go that extreme at this point as quite a few pics of the approach I chose seem to be out there in use.
Yes I did drill to get the bolt through the frame, But I am also going to Tig weld that bolt on both sides which will make it stronger than just drilled and probably even more strong than it was from the get go. Now where I am doing all this is on the very edge of the web weld, not in the middle of the tube so hoping that all will be ok.
As you bring up the mounts, here is a pic of each of mine.
Was going to post this once I took them off, painted and could photo both sides. Several on the back side have sections of half pipe being used as saddles for stable/ non rotatable mounting in certain areas. All steel plating is 3/8". The U-bolts being used are all 3/8" diameter with most of them being 2ton Truck universal joint straps. In the pictures everything is still in the rough, some bolts are not the final ones going to be used for final install, they were what I had on hand when designing. Having followed long time sidecar builder J Sweet for several years on FB, I followed his advise as to how he has built mounts for over 50 years with no failures.
Gotta say you do excellent fabricating work, really looking forward to seeing the rig when it's done
Yep, I have had 3 1500's still have 1, a 96 trike that I bought that had been sitting in a barn for about 5 plus years. Went through it and now my wife rides it.
had a 97 that I put the FII on, we rode it for years and I sold it at a Rally a few years back, I really enjoyed that set-up. had a 6 gallon tank behind the seat with one way check valve in line in front of a pump, hose ran to a fitting in the tank so I could fill it on the fly, could ride almost 300 miles between fill-ups
Thank you sir for the compliment. When it comes to my construction projects as well as metal work, I probably way overkill the situation. But, luckily nothing I have ever built has failed.
Oh yeah, I have had many 1500's myself. Other than the rebuilding of carbs these days, due to the modern fuel, they are still to me one of the best touring bikes ever built. I just recently got rid of one I had for over 18 years, was sort of sad to see it go as I had traveled so much with so many friends over the years. All the friends are gone, now so is that bike.
Cool idea on the added fuel tank, my Roadsmith GL1800 trike has that option available, but mine does not have it. After a recent 7k mile cross country trip, I am planning to add it in the near future, just not the RS version as to me its a bit too pricey for just a plastic tank and a filler spout. I may do something similar with this SC rig, if I see I ride it alot.
I put out a question on the FB "Sidecars are fun" group about the rear mount on a GL1000. JSweet almost immediately replied with his tech drawing on the subject. Dont know why I never thought to ask that before there. By his drawing it appears he used to attach his sidecars to GL1000's back in the day on the same vertical plane, however once I asked him the mount points he stated the bar went from the Foot peg bolt to the upper shock bolt. But, at the same time also stating his sidecars back in that day only weight about 165lbs. I am thinking a MV Formula II weighs quite a bit more. But possible still an idea in the making for something different that what I am doing...Hmmmmmmm?
That is interesting. seems you would need to use at least a 3/8 flat bar to prevent flexing, also maybe U-bolt clamp it to the frame tube somehow near where your current clamp is. I think that would make it solid for a heavier car and give you a straight on connection. from the pic of your bike it looks like it would have to go behind the frame tube. could be the angle of the picture but the shock looks recessed from the frame. that could create some challenges