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I have a 2000 Yamaha Venture.  I have been riding it without modification for some years.  Age is now telling me to keep the 3 wheels under me.

I was told years ago that I can modify the front end so it seems more like "power steering".  Can anyone give me any details if this I correct.

 

Thank,

Bill

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I have a 98 Royal Star with a raked front end. Steering is very easy for me (but I do resemble a gorilla in some aspects). I don’t know how the mod was done but there is a giant billet of aluminum under the steering head that might be how it was modified.  

Alas, I am unable to provide details on how the modification was done because the previous owner who built it has passed away. 

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Hi Bill, you may be able to source a sidecar appropriate triple tree at Machine & Design in Illinois:

https://customtripletrees.com/Yamaha.html#model2

https://customtripletrees.com/contact.html

Note:  New steering head bearings are generally required with these trees (order separately).

 

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Hi Bill

I added the easy steer to my wife's first trike that was the Yamaha RSV at the time the only place I could find that had the tree was Hannagan 

it is a bit pricey but well worth it. I also added handlebar risers. it's not too bad a job if you can do it yourself but you will have to loose your lower fork covers as they will not fit once the tree is changed 

 

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AceinSav,

What degree did you use for your wife's?

Thanks, everyone for your information. I can now start  the project.

Bill

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as it turns out it is the only one Hannagan offer for the Yamaha and I'm pretty sure it was a 4.5 

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  Mine is in Hannigaan's shop right now getting the 4 1/2 degree tree installed. Bearing and everything is part of the deal.

Hope to be heading home with it latter today.

 

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Quote from smitty901 on August 30, 2022, 11:24 am

  Mine is in Hannigaan's shop right now getting the 4 1/2 degree tree installed. Bearing and everything is part of the deal.

Hope to be heading home with it latter today.

 

good deal, you should be very happy with it. 

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One more question.

Chrome Triple trees have a 6 1/4 tree.  I see smitty901 has a 4/ 1/2.  With either one do you know if the bike is still ridabel two up?

 

Thanks

Another person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.  

Quote from AceinSav on August 30, 2022, 9:09 am

as it turns out it is the only one Hannagan offer for the Yamaha and I'm pretty sure it was a 4.5 

Is it a massive billet of aluminum under the TTT?  I’m fairly certain that’s what Nelson put on the rig, but since I don’t have a parts list, it’s kind of a guessing game.

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so just curious what car do you have hooked up the your Yammy 

what I found is when riding 2 up I lower the car as far as I can safely to counter for the rider, as Thane said without some ballast in the car riding 2 up can be a bit unnerving if you have a lot of twist and turns 

 

Thane

yeah I do believe he put the Hannigan tree on it 

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I have a Formula II.  It has it's own braking system so when I take it off I don't have to worry about the brakes getting air in them.

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COOL, I had the FII on my 1500 wing, I really liked it and my wife logged many a mile in the car over the years we had it. 

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Quote from Thane Lewis on August 29, 2022, 10:26 pm

I have a 98 Royal Star with a raked front end. Steering is very easy for me (but I do resemble a gorilla in some aspects). I don’t know how the mod was done but there is a giant billet of aluminum under the steering head that might be how it was modified.  

Alas, I am unable to provide details on how the modification was done because the previous owner who built it has passed away. 

I have seen Thane in person...he does resemble a Gorilla, so he is telling the truth. 

On the triple trees on Thane's rig, that is a Hannigan trail reduced triple tree, that Thane refers to as a hunk of Billet.

Hannigan has a tendency to use 4.5 degrees of angle in their custom made triple trees, whereas the trail reducing triple trees made by Bill, at Custom Triple Trees generally have a 5 degree angle, or up to a 6.5 degree angle, all depending on the model of bike they will be used in.

On both of my Goldwing 1800's that I personally installed trail reducing triple trees in, both made by Bill, they were both an added 5 degrees, and the bikes/sidecar rigs handled perfectly with the new triple trees.

Bill, at Custom Triple trees is the primary maker of these triple trees, as sidecar companies like DMC, and I believe at times even Hannigan, order their triple trees from Bill.

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Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pm

Another person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.  

 I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.

IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.

What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.

 

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Riding two up was my question.  Got my answer.

Thanks, everyone.  This was an informative discussion.

 

labill

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Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pm
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pm

Another person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.  

 I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.

IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.

What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.

 

Hi Bob

quick question, in your opinion why do you like the 4 1/2 better.

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Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pm
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pm

Another person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.  

 I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.

IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.

What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.

 

That triple clamp oic looks a lot like what I can see without removing bits.  It works wonders for the handling of the rig.

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Quote from AceinSav on August 31, 2022, 2:09 pm
Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pm
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pm

Another person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.  

 I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.

IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.

What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.

 

Hi Bob

quick question, in your opinion why do you like the 4 1/2 better.

   The 6 degree required more unnecessary work. Parts of the dash needed to be trimmed away. Adding more cost. It did not offer any advantage.

I took the new tree out to today and road hard. passed ll my test.

 

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