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(@dougcar)
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I'm on a mission-

in a moment of clarity I've decided to use my skills for good and restore (like new)  a 1977 BMW R 100/7 and join it to a similar Ural side car for a Vet with a special needs kid ( son 6 ) 

that said , I'm only confident on the bike part with no knowledge of , subframes , attachments, supports , setup , alignment, and the general engineering involved in adding a third wheel.

I've also acquired a leading link front end off a Ural but might scrap that idea as it's already getting too complicated 

in short i am over my head 

who can lead me from this darkness into the light closer to home than Middelburg PA which will be my next stop looking for help at Freedom Side cars ?

 

 

 
Posted : March 6, 2024 3:43 pm
(@miles-ladue)
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Doug, 'tis an admirable  thing you  are doing  for  your  friend. 

You  don't  say  where  YOU  live, only that you  are hoping for  help closer to  home,  before  having to  go talk to  Freedom  sidecars  in Middleburg,  PA.

We have  sidecarists  all over, so tell us  where you are,  and hopefully  someone  near you will  volunteer to help. 

Two Million Mile Rider...All 7 Continents
Exploring the World in Comfort

 
Posted : March 6, 2024 4:15 pm
(@dougcar)
Posts: 3
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Thanks 

NC is in the tittle 

 

 
Posted : March 7, 2024 1:06 am
 Drew
(@andrew-baker)
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David Woodburn from Barnsley Motor Werks is in Georgia.  He wrote a book on riding an airhead around the world.

Here's an article on them  https://gearjunkie.com/motors/motorcycle-sidecar-journey-david-emy-woodburn-barnsley-motor-werks

This is their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/BarnsleyMotorWerks

And deets

400 ALABAMA RD, Roopville, GA, United States, Georgia
(770) 854-9136
 
Posted : March 7, 2024 2:50 am
 Drew
(@andrew-baker)
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Also depending on how  in shape your buddy is, particularly in regards to shoulder and upper body strength, you may want to look for a leading link front end. I found my RT/Ural tiring but not impossible with no steering mods.

I've read about others that tried putting the Ural front end on and found the conversion to be too difficult to be worth it. Not 100% sure but I think it had to do with width between the forks, length of the forks, and maybe something about the steering stem (length?). Definitely would need new bearings.

Some have tried to put a /2 Earles on but they are becoming harder to find and require modification.

Chuck Loftin who goes by 54Vintage on ADVrider.com https://advrider.com/f/members/54vintage.183597/

built my leading links for my former R100RT/Ural rig.  Chuck doesn't like to ship his builds anymore though so you may have to do some convincing. He's in Eugene OR

They made a big difference in steering ability.  Unfortunately, I sold those on after I wrecked that bike.

Unit Forks made some but not everybody agrees on quality and they can be hard to find.

Wasp still makes them but they were very slow to get back to me.  Affordable though.  waspmotorcycles@gmail.c

The pdf's I attached are a pic of their kit, the 2021 price list, and an order form

 
Posted : March 7, 2024 3:11 am
(@ned)
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Doug, the bike you've chosen should make for a great classic-looking tug and that picture of the sidecar looks like a great match.  If I didn't want to do a deep dive into fabricating and welding, I'd call the Texas Sidecar Company [ https://www.texassidecars.com ] and ask them if they have a ready-made kit for mating the R100 to a classic Ural sidecar.  They might have a simple off-the-shelf solution for you.

Also, about the front end, I'd use the existing BMW forks for the build then take it out and drive it.  Only if the steering is unmanageable would I start worry about modifying the forks.  In other words, if it ain't broke don't put the cart before the horse.

My 2¢.

Have owned 5 rigs but Rig #2 is my current one!

 
Posted : March 7, 2024 7:08 pm
(@dougcar)
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Good advice 

I did contact them and a kit will be around 1500 or more but still need finishing and proper setup adding another grand 

just shopping alternative to throwing money at it prior to throwing more money at it lol

 
Posted : March 8, 2024 7:51 am
(@smitty901)
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Quote from Doug Kadan on March 8, 2024, 12:51 pm

Good advice 

I did contact them and a kit will be around 1500 or more but still need finishing and proper setup adding another grand 

just shopping alternative to throwing money at it prior to throwing more money at it lol

 That would be fair compared to trying to make your own from scratch.IMO

 
Posted : March 15, 2024 2:27 am