Originally written by bluehdmc on 6/10/2009 12:54 PM
Can't say I've burned my hand either with the Champion Reverse. I did gun it out of the garage once, don't know if I pulled in the clutch before I backed off the throttle but I stripped the gear off the shaft. The gears are only held on the shaft with a heavy duty loctite compound. When I called Champion that'a when they told me it wasn't "heavy duty". Apparently this happens often enough. Their instructions, (downloadable) say 7hrs to install although you get about halfway through and they tell you to wait overnite for loctite to cure.
I just took mine back apart, reloctite gears, (only one had broken loose), and reassembled. Kind of glad I did though, found small srcrews that hold plate and gear in trapdoor loose. Retightened them with loctite. Is it expensive, kinda, but a lot of engineering had to go into it, so I'm sure the price is to insure a return on investment.
Lehman Trikes is supposed to be the exclusive dealer for the Baker 6spd, no prices on their website though.
Hmmmmm. Loctite you say....holding the gears in place? I don't mean to be critical but as a full-time hobby machinist now, there are places that I use Loctite and one of them is not holding gears in place on my Harley Transmission.
I admit that I went so far as to download the installation instructions for the Champion unit. I remember reading something about Loctite but
I didn't focus on it.
I know that there are some grades of Loctite, such as the bearing and sleeve locker varieties, that can perform extraordinary tasks. It's just that I find it difficult to beiieve that they could or would rely on Loctite to retain the gears on the shafts.
Thanks for letting us know about that.
locktight is what worries me about the glue on version
if i use cat retaining compound [green high spec lock tight] what in gods earth will i do if i ever have to remove the nut? that stuff is tough
on the other hand - that japanese site is really great - there are some great parts on there - the clutch looks like its less than a grand - im going to hunt for a translation
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Here's the translation for the back gear also known as reverse gear:
Champion uses a loctite retaining compound, it does seem to work, just not for heavy duty usage, or "stunt riding". Some of the loctite retaining compounds have a shear strength of 3000psi or better. As far as removal goes I'm sure a heat gun will work and won't hurt anything, (or just a quick shot in reverse LOL).
Since Sakuma, Japan is a Champion dealer, I would assume that their reverse unit is also the Champion product.
Lonnie
Originally written by Hack'n on 6/13/2009 11:23 AM
Since Sakuma, Japan is a Champion dealer, I would assume that their reverse unit is also the Champion product.
Lonnie
It appears to be Champion.
the clutch is a flyweight unit - you just put it in gear and then rev up the throttle and it engages
makes some sense in japan - there the rear sprocket is smaller - it has to be horrible to get moving at a up hill stop sign without stalling
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