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(@Anonymous)
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Hello again...sidecar mike the info you wondered about is it is a HD car a TLE Ultra to be exact, the master drive unit is a ultra classic electra glide. The car weighs in at 234# the bike weighs 880# 2 everyone who replied in earlier post we just recently tried the wife in the sidecar thing the wife at 230# filled the sidecar quite nicely but it's a 1 seater therefore there's no room for granddaughter...? 1 little ? I have is for other passengers out there or riders are there tips for the passenger on the back as far as riding on the back goes as I don't think the wife's comfortable in the sidecar and extra weight and the granddaughter are going to have to be the way to work out this riding with the 3 of us together...? Also who has a listing of states that offer rider courses and is Indiana 1 of them...? That's all for now Thanks for l@@king at my post.


 
Posted : June 14, 2009 6:21 pm
(@Jack-H)
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I'll jump in with the rest here. It scares the heck out of me when I see 2 adults on a bike & a kid in the sidecar. A tragedy waiting to happen.

Perhaps your only way out is to sell the HD chair & replace it with a wider chair (Hannigans are great) that will accommodate your wife & grandchild.

Either that or have Claude or one of the other experts on here build you a custom rig.

Tub Maxin runs STEP classes in Louisville a few times a year, I believe he lives in or around Indy. He hangs out here at times so you should be able to find him if you give a shout.

Good luck. Be safe.


 
Posted : June 14, 2009 7:58 pm
(@Chili-Pepper-Garage)
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Glad you are okay.

I have a question! I have a Honda GL1500 and a CA Friendship III. I almost always have my 80LBS dog in the car and my 100LBS girlfriend on the back of the bike. I never have experienced any sort of problems with it, even with the sidehack empty. Am I just lucky and should be worried or is the sidecar heavy enough not to have any problems? The car is a two seater but I don't know how much it weighs.


 
Posted : June 15, 2009 11:24 am
(@Hack__n)
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FS3 with dog weighs over 300# and being a double wide it has a much wider track than the rig described in the first post of this thread.
Also Your GF seems to weigh a few grams less than the passenger described.
Maybe you are lighter in weight than the poster.

Apples and oranges.

Go hot into a right hand turn and the FS3 will get air too.
The answer is Moderation, and lots of it.

Lonnie


 
Posted : June 15, 2009 1:11 pm
(@claude-3563)
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It all comes down to two things related to safety.
1) Balancing the weight bias of the rig.
Put two people on the bike where one weighs 140 and the other 110 and things could be fine on a given rig. Same rig.. put two people on the bike where one weighs 230 and the other 210 and it is a whole different story. We have an 1800 wing with a Hannigan GTL sidecar on it. Two up on the bike is a tottally differnt story than two up on our R100R outfit.
2) Passenger security.
The person on the rear of a solo bike leans with the bike and isn't apt to being moved toward the outside of a turn due to cornering forces. A person on the rear of a bike with a sidecar will tend to be pitched toward the outside of a turn if they are not holding on. The last thing you want is an already unbalanced rig with a passenger hanging off th eleft side in a right hand turn.
Best policy is to put the pass=enger in the sidecar.
Second best policy is to make darn sure a rig is still balanced well with a passenegr on the rear.
A few years ago someoen put a sidecar on a sportster. They went out and ride a little , came home picked up wht wife and kid and took the rig back out. In a right hander they sadly crossed the centerline and were killed. Different machine with the weigth being distributed differently.
This IS NOT the fault of the sidecar rig!! It is the fault of the operator not knowing that weight distribution is an important thing to consider. This can be true for any thing from boats to airplanes.


 
Posted : June 16, 2009 4:15 am
(@Anonymous)
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Just had to touch base on this reply to post...
Ijust got off phone with installer in regards to quick disconnect brake line in order to be able to remove car and after it's all said and done and knowing I told him to install disconnect inline to brake on car and him having the rig for 3wks he tells me he couldn't install do to part not showing up ? Is this something I can install myself as I'm done with this guy feedin' me lines of crap from a 2 1/2 hr. trip back to have them install it while I wait...what ever happen to plain ol'honesty instead of get'em in and out for the money ?


 
Posted : June 20, 2009 7:41 am
(@claude-3563)
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Installing the sidecar brake will not help your weight bias situation but I am sure you know that.
Did the parts ever come in even if not on time? Were they ordered?


 
Posted : June 20, 2009 7:48 am
(@Hack__n)
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If you are mechanically inclined it should be no problem installing the quick disconnect fittings. Just follow the instructions and be sure to bleed the system after installing it and bleeding the system every time you disconnect and reconnect the sidecar brake line.
Some air will be entrapped each time you do this and it will affect the brake efficiency (at best) if this is not done.

Lonnie
Northwest Sidecars


 
Posted : June 20, 2009 2:35 pm
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