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Lightweight rig for a 125cc ?

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(@solarsea)
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Hi guys,

I have a 125cc dual sport which I'm thinking would make a fun three wheeler for winter. The engine is decent, dohc, and manages to get the bike (135kg) and myself (130kg) to about 60mph at high revs in the really long fifth gear so it should have some oomphf for pulling a rig and I can always adjust the final gearing ratio.

Ideally I would like a lightweight hack so that it can carry a person and not overload/stress the bike too much. What weight distribution should I be aiming at at the sidecar so that it rides good ?

Regards,
Stan


 
Posted : October 7, 2015 11:14 pm
(@wvsporty)
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As far as I know Velorex is the lightest rig out there. I have one on my Sportster and love it . Weight is preference kind of thing. For me I have 50lbs of balast behind the seat plus tool box and odds and ends. I normally only carry my grandson who is now 45 lbs and his car seat


 
Posted : October 15, 2015 10:34 am
(@Doug-Hasert)
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Cosy is made for small bikes and scooters and lighter than Velorex. They are made in India..


 
Posted : October 15, 2015 10:39 am
(@oldschool_iscool)
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DMC also sells a "chariot" type of car, not much more than a frame, a wheel and a seat, that might work for you.

http://www.dmcsidecars.com/sidecars/enduro/

Jay also sells DIY frames if you want to build the body yourself.

Be aware tho that you can go TOO light with a car. Since you can't lean into turns, you need a chair that's heavy enough to counter-balance the bike's centrifugal force that wants to tip the bike over. Rule of thumb I'd you want a car that's about a quarter to a third of the weight of your bike. You can play a bit with width and ballast to adjust the ride.


 
Posted : October 15, 2015 2:52 pm
(@peter-pan)
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Have a look at what our dear Igor from Poland makes up. He became quite a specialist on small engine rigs.
http://sidecar.com/mbbs22/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=13605&posts=26&highlight=Igor%20Poland&highlightmode=1#M85239
http://sidecar.com/mbbs22/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9442&posts=46&highlight=Igor%20Poland&highlightmode=1#M62667
You will like his approaches.
Sven


 
Posted : October 15, 2015 5:30 pm
(@wvsporty)
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Did y'all notice his location?


 
Posted : October 16, 2015 4:15 am
(@peter-pan)
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Stanislav, visit Igor in Silesia. not too far away from you...


 
Posted : October 16, 2015 5:48 am
(@Hack__n)
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Weight distribution is good at 2/3rds bike load, 1/3 sidecar load.

Lonnie


 
Posted : October 16, 2015 6:00 am
(@solarsea)
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Thanks for the replies guys. I've found Igor's second thread before using the search but the first one is new to me, great pics.

Poland is certainly not that far, this summer I took a trip to Venice through Hungary just to see Budapest so it sure is doable 🙂

I might need to visit another EU state for licensing a sidecar as well, as due to the lack of legislation the inspecting authorities here will not certify any DIY vehicles or vehicle modifications such as sidecars unless all included parts have an EU type approval. That's a nanny state for you/me/ right there.

1/3 sidecar load, 2/3 bike - got it!


 
Posted : October 16, 2015 6:06 am
(@Hack__n)
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A Spirit Eagle is also a lightweight at about 140#.


 
Posted : October 16, 2015 6:12 am
(@c64club)
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Hi Stan. If I can help - let me.

I made three sidecars for my 125cc Romet, that is constantly rebuilt, and its fresh pictures are always actual for max few days 😀 :

First, a cargo one, my learning hack. I think perfect for ADV/Dualsport bike:

Second, a passenger one, that did about 20k kilometers with me and Little Mi:

Then I totally rebuilt the bike to get these experimental mounts rid. The result was:

And now, freshly rebuilt this month, it looks like that:

jh

My rig on the left, the nice black bike is my friend's one that I built this summer.

and mentioned friend's 125c:

Also made a sidecar for my brother's 50cc that was brother's main go-to-work vechicle for two winters until was stolen last winter. Also, like mine, was under constant construction/rebuild as only some new idea born in our heads. Brother's 50cc rig:

And a Suzugi GN125 training rig for my other friend's motorcycle riding school. Too light, allowing a "student" to see how bad idea it is, and then to add some ballast and go:

These are (I think) all my small engine productions. There were also bigger bikes up to 1400cc Intruder. I can give you links to articles on my homepage. Articles are Polish but they have many photos of build details


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 5:39 am
(@peter-pan)
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Igor,
nice work on your bike, did you get a contract with German police?
Exactly the same colour our police used to have their motorcycles and cars painted to my time.
(once the village's police officer persecuted us on his bicycle while we escaped across the pasture with our go-cart motorized with a lawn mover engine)
Sven


 
Posted : October 22, 2015 9:37 pm
(@c64club)
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Sven, it's just bad white balance in my camera. In reality it's happy, juicy green. Closer to John Deere or Forest Services than to German police.


 
Posted : October 23, 2015 12:18 am