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It bugs me that I have to post this info again, as I believe I posted similar info a year or two ago, however...one of our very own people within our community is laying in the ER right this minute having suffered from Heat Exhaustion, whilst out driving his sidecar rig.

I shall not identify this well known sidecarist, as it is a medical issue, and we need to show respect for that are dealing with medical issues.

But I want to repeat what I told all of you a year or more ago, and that is to be aware, be prepared, take precautions to ward off Heat Exhaustion, and even worse...Heat Stroke.

For the last 100 years I have hated riding in hot weather, or even worse...hot & humid weather, as it takes all the energy out of the rider, and ruins the day. I am fortunate, or is it by design (yes, by design) that where I live, right this moment, on the very first full day of Summer, we have a light drizzle of rain, and a high of maybe 55 degrees...F, not C. This is my kind of Summer day, where you are eager to stay inside, and have a hot bowl of Irish Stew, with cornbread on the side.

For those of you that insist on riding in HOT weather, or unexpectedly get caught out in the HOT weather, or Hot/Humid weather, there are steps to take to ward off the heat, and allow you ride to be cooler, and your body safer from heat exhaustion or heat stroke.

First and foremost, pay attention to the weather forecasts. Not only where you are starting from, but also where you will be riding/driving to, and the expected times of the day when you anticipate being in those areas.

Secondly, dress appropriately for these conditions. That does NOT mean stripping down to a short-sleeved t-shirt, or no shirt at all, whilst wearing shorts, and sandals. Dressing appropriately means wearing the correct layers, so that the wind and heat does NOT evaporate all the moisture away from your skin, but with lightweight long-sleeved shirts, that allow a light airflow. Long pants, proper boots, and even a neck covering, to keep the heat away from the neck.

If the temperatures rise to the point of being HOT, there are steps you can take to beat that heat.

One step is to wear a "cool collar" that you soak in water, the beads sewn into the cool collar absorb the water, and keep the cool collar wet, so you wrap this cool collar around your next, with the purpose of keeping the blood that is flowing to your brain, as cool as possible.

Control the vents on your riding jacket. Know when to open the vents, and when to close the vents, even on a very hot day.

In extreme heat conditions, one of my favorite tricks is to stop at a gas station/convenience store....remove your helmet, and place that helmet inside the ICE boxes that are usually outside the store, where they sell bags or blocks of ice. Just put your helmet inside that ice box, and allow the ice to cool down you helmet, and even freeze the sweat inside your helmet.

Then, fill you bike with gas/fuel/petrol....get yourself something to drink, like a Gatorade, or just plain water, but NOT a beer, as that does the opposite of what you need from the liquid.

Some of you may use a Camelback drinking system, and that is good, but it is important to hydrate the INSIDE of your body, and not just wet yourself down with the hose at the gas station.

Then...VERY IMPORTANT....pay for a 5 lb bag of crushed ICE....and when you remove your helmet from the ice box, also remove one 5 lb bag of crushed ice from that ice box.

Now, unzip your riding jacket just enough to slip that entire 5 lb bag of crushed ice inside your riding jacket, so that this 5 lb bag of crushed ice is inside the jacket, sitting over your heart, to cool down the blood flowing to your brain.

Yes, it will be dang cold...and you may not be able to fit the entire 5 lb bag of crushed ice inside your riding jacket, and then still zip it up, so if you are riding with a fellow riding partner, consider splitting that bag between the two of you. But a small box of plastic garbage bags at the convenience store, and share that 5 lb bag of crushed ice with everyone in your riding group.

Yes, the ice will melt, and if you are lucky, not only will it cool you down, but the melting ice will also wet down your inner layer of clothing, so you stay cooler even longer.

Do NOT stop to drink a beer, assuming that this will cool you down...that is a huge error.

Be smart, THINK....and think about all this ahead of time...because if you wait until you are in the moment, and are now experiencing heat exhaustion, your brain will be fuzzy, and you will not be able to clearly think about how to save yourself, as...heat exhaustion and heat stroke can KILL, and in fact does KILL people every year around the world.

As I said, right this minute we have one of our own laying in the ER at their local hospital, this person has family and friends in attendance to make sure they are okay, the sidecar rig is in their garage now, etc, etc, etc, but .......what if you were 1,000 miles away from home, and you get heat stroke....would you be able to survive it ?

Every human body has a different tolerance as to how much heat, or cold, they can take. Some people like the 90+ % humidity, in the 90+ temperatures, whilst other can not take those temperatures of humidity. Personally, I can not, so I prefer to live in, and ride in, much colder temps. They make heated clothing to keep you warm, but very little is out there to keep a hot body cooler when riding.

Yes, they make specialty materials to keep cool, and I have all that myself, and I am an expert at layering my clothing, to keep myself at the temperature I want, to be safe.

But...what about YOU ?

Try the bag of crushed ice inside your riding jacket, and see if that allows you to get to a safe place, and survive the extreme heat.

Okay, it was a long read, but the subject matter is that important. For those of you that did actually read the entire script, you may have just saved your own life, or the life of someone you are out there riding with.

For those that elected to NOT read the entire thing, more is the pity.

I recognize that I am all too verbose on threads like this, but I ask you to listen, because not only am I an extremely high mileage rider, having ridden all over and around the World, but I am also a doctor x3, so...please accept my words and advice as they were intended...to help you.


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Posted : June 21, 2025 5:33 pm
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That settles it.  We are all coming to stay with you for the summer.  Two questions:

  • What's for dinner?
  • Will we get a group discount when it is time to ship our rigs to Scotland? 

Hope our esteemed colleague mends quickly, completely and with no complications. 😎 


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Posted : June 21, 2025 6:11 pm
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Miles

Thanks for that=)

 A timely summery and to be honest as much as i want to get away i would be crazy to tackle a long ride in this kind of heat and Sam would not be impressed. So i will see how things develop. 90 plus here right now, AC is your friend.


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Posted : June 21, 2025 6:45 pm
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Hot? What's this hot you talk of Miles??

 


 
Posted : June 21, 2025 8:18 pm
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Posted by: @brstr

Hot? What's this hot you talk of Miles??

 

Bruce,  the sidecarist that is STILL in the hospital as I am typing this,  which is already Sunday in Western OZ, this person, a dear friend of mine,  was in 104* F temperatures, but also fighting 45 mph side winds and head winds. They were only on a 146 miles trip, but in that kind of heat, with that much side wind and head winds, it can feel like someone opened an oven door. 

The mistake here is in assuming that the relatively short ride would not affect the body as much as it did...when that oven door was opened.

And yes, Bruce, we do have places here in the US that can get as hot as your Western Australia and Central Australia,  with temperatures exceeding 125* F +, but smart riders will avoid riding during those temperatures. 

 


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Posted : June 21, 2025 9:47 pm
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Hey Miles - appreciate the post. I, too, hate riding in crazy hot weather. But, I'm currently on a trip in the midwest with temps today expected to be in the upper 90s - I've got about a 125 mile ride today and will try to ice suggestion.


 
Posted : June 22, 2025 9:48 am
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An important thing to learn, and remember, is that when riding on a motorcycle, or driving a sidecar rig, the rider and passengers are exposed to much higher temperatures than what the ambient temperatures are. Unlike sitting inside a car, which preferably has A/C, a motorcycle rider, or sidecar driver is exposed, which means that they also face the temperatures coming from the heated road surface, the heat coming from the exhaust of other vehicles, the heat that is reflected from the glass of other vehicles, buildings, etc.

Typically, if it is 90* F as an ambient temperature, a motorcycle rider or sidecar driver IN MOTION will experience an ADDED 10* to 15* F of heat, whereas the same rider or driver that is caught in stop and go traffic, like in LA, or Houston, or Phoenix, or Atlanta, etc....those people will experience an ADDED 20* F to 30* F to whatever the ambient temperature is.

It is not unusual for a rider or sidecar driver to be in 104* F ambient temperature, and due to traffic conditions, the reality is that they are baking in 130* F temperatures.

UPDATE: regarding our patient in the hospital...still there BTW...their potassium levels are quite low at 2.6, and that treatment will take approx 4 hours.

They are able to use the bathroom on their own, with assistance of getting to and from the bathroom, as walking is still quite unsteady.

Minimal throwing up last night, compared to the prolific barfing that was occurring yesterday.

This person is a very experienced sidecarist, long time member of this association, and not a spring chicken, so if this can happen to this experienced sidecarist, it can happen to you too. Won't ever happen to me, as I am the guy that has to preach all this stuff, so it would look terrible if the preacher were to experience heat exhaustion at this level.

Bruise

Just...be safe out there.


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Posted : June 22, 2025 10:02 am
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I will officially out myself as the victim of self imposed under sight.  So far in 24 hours I’m on my fifth liter of IV saline and it’s going down fast.  

For some unknown reason the vertigo hit me hard Saturday about 150 miles into the ride.  While the Ari temp was only in the 80s, it started at dawn in the mid 70s.  Fortunately I still had the presence of mind to turn after fuel and began heading back to home less than 100 miles away.  I made it as far as the next town 25 miles before stopping for good and call in for help.  A friend and his wife came to retrieve me.  He rode the rig home and she got me as far as the next crossroads before I succumbed to heaves and demands for an ambulance.

Things could have been much worse and I believe that I was not in as good condition as a year ago when I brought this rig home from Miles’ in actually worse heat.

I do not recommend this course of action for anyone.


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Posted : June 22, 2025 4:47 pm
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Thane, my friend,  I am very relieved that you will survive this,  and learn how to stay cooler for future excursions.

Bruise


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Posted : June 22, 2025 5:47 pm
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My irreverent post was due to it being the shortest day here and old bones feeling the cold.

Not that it gets truly cold here as there no ice on the ground.

Some years ago when I was doing installation work up north, as in an hour and a half in a jet plane north. 

In and around Port Hedland.

I had to learn to guzzle water rather than sip.

Along with making sure I carried said water from the time I stepped of the plane.

Still managed a couple of minor bouts of heat stroke. 

Not fun.

And yes being on a bike makes us  much more vulnerable. 

 

Good to see  you got proper care Thane.

 


 
Posted : June 22, 2025 5:48 pm
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Glad to read you are back amongst the living Thane!  🍻 


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Posted : June 22, 2025 5:56 pm
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To quote my wife: “Tea good! Yum,”


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Posted : June 23, 2025 7:42 am
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Well, damn it, Thane is back in the hospital,  but this time they transported him all the way to Omaha,  Nebraska,  because the medical center there has better diagnostic equipment. 

They are concerned it may be an aneurysm......I am thinking it's not. 

Maybe,  I am just being hopeful. 

BTW, for those of you that are not aware of it....Thane Lewis is now our new President of the United Sidecar Association. 


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Posted : June 23, 2025 11:22 pm
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I one  clicked but not because I liked.

Thane best you get better fast.

Speaking of fast?

No donuts till you do.

There folks he's motivated now.


 
Posted : June 24, 2025 7:20 am
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Thane 

sorry to hear this happened, just glad to hear you got the proper attention in time. 

 


 
Posted : June 24, 2025 8:03 am
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