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(@gumshoe4)
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Hello again to all.

Just curious...there's quite a bit of information about putting a hack on a Sportster or an FLH, but I don't think I've heard any mention of putting one on a softail or Dyna. Has this been done?

Also, don't see much mention of British bikes with hacks, but in my mind, a modern Bonneville/Cozy or Watsonian combination would really be nice. Anyone have one of these?

Hope everyones' spring is springing. My buddy Rick and I had a very nice ride into the Sierra foothills last weekend...it was great to get out on the bikes and clear out the cobwebs...

Bob


 
Posted : April 25, 2008 4:28 pm
(@vs1100star2002)
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at Hannigans we have put sidecars on both the softail heritage and fat boy and also a couple of dyna's. we have not done any Triumphs other than a couple rocket 3's.


 
Posted : April 25, 2008 5:47 pm
(@Hack__n)
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There are probably several examples in my albums.

Hack'n

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Posted : April 25, 2008 5:53 pm
(@gumshoe4)
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Lonnie, what a bunch of really beautiful rigs!

I particularly like that '05 Bonnie/Vel and the H-D...is that a Dyna?

Nicely done!! If it's OK, I'm going to scarf these photos and put them in my screensaver...particularly that Bonnie!

Thanks!!

Bob


 
Posted : April 25, 2008 6:36 pm
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Bob,
The '08 FXDL rig is the replacement for my '03 Anniversary Dyna LowRider rig that I totaled last August (into a pine tree) from a front tire blow out (new tire hit construction debris).
19K damage to the bike but I'm using the same 563T sidecar on my 2008 Dyna after minor repairs.
Here's the old rig.

Lonnie

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Posted : April 26, 2008 7:50 am
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Gumshoe4 wrote:
>>, don't see much mention of British bikes with hacks, but in my mind, a modern Bonneville/Cozy or Watsonian combination would really be nice. Anyone have one of these?<<

Attached photo is of a couple of the Triumphs we have done. One is a Watsonoian and one is a Modified Cozy.
Haven't done a Rocket III yet but sure am looking forward to doing one someday. Just hope the owner isn't objectionable to any drool I might leave on it 🙂

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Posted : April 26, 2008 12:50 pm
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Claude and Lonnie...All I can say is:

NICE!!!

Lonnie, I've heard that the Vel might be a little light for the larger bikes. How did that work with the Dyna? Did you have to put a lot of weight in it, or was it OK as is?

Bob


 
Posted : April 26, 2008 2:13 pm
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I have 60# of permanent steel ballast under the 563T frame. Rides rock solid on this '08 Dyna, and on the '03 for four years. I prefer to stay on all three wheels these days. I can fly the chair if I want to but don't get the urge much anymore.
FYI: I scale out at a solid 180#.

Lonnie


 
Posted : April 26, 2008 6:16 pm
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Very nice rigs, Lonnie. I would think that a Triumph would be a very good sidecar bike.

I'm wondering, was it necessary to do any gearing changes on the Triumph sidecar units:


 
Posted : April 26, 2008 8:04 pm
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I've had clients who've had both say that the Bonneville 800 is more tractable and pulls a hack better than a Sporty does due to the difference in gearing.

Lonnie


 
Posted : April 27, 2008 7:14 am
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Hello

There have been a number of failures of the rocket 111 shaft bearings and the dealers have walked away from the warranty if they chairs on or have been triked.

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/expand.asp?uniqueID=6A68E9D0D23AFF9780256F58004F6308.

Regards

Barry


 
Posted : April 27, 2008 9:54 am
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Originally written by Threewheelsuk on 4/27/2008 11:54 AM

Hello

There have been a number of failures of the rocket 111 shaft bearings and the dealers have walked away from the warranty if they chairs on or have been triked.

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/expand.asp?uniqueID=6A68E9D0D23AFF9780256F58004F6308.

Regards

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/searches/expand.asp?uniqueID=6A68E9D0D23AFF9780256F58004F6308

The link works with the period removed from the end.

It sounds like the Triumph Rocket III had a recall without sidecars being involved. It's pretty easy for a dealer to blame a sidecar.

Barry


 
Posted : April 27, 2008 9:58 am
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Hello

Dealers appear to have excluded any rocket 111 that were not standard from the recall.
Sorry about the full stop.

Regards

Barry


 
Posted : April 27, 2008 11:59 am
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Originally written by Threewheelsuk on 4/27/2008 1:59 PM

Hello

Dealers appear to have excluded any rocket 111 that were not standard from the recall.
Sorry about the full stop.

Regards

Barry

You know, in thinking about a manufacturer excluding a certain machine that is non-standard from a general recall it occurred to me that this may be illegal. It could be a violation of federal law. As far as I know, in a recall, the company has a duty under the law to notify all owners of that particular model as well as to make corrections. Once notified, if the owner chooses not to have the work done within a reasonable time, the manufacturer is off the hook.

I can understand an exclusion from warranty work due to a non-standard usage such as a sidecar or a trailer. On the other hand, a recall has to do with design defects and failures that are common to motorcycles across the board in the whole model.

It doesn't seem to me that a sidecar would cause an oil seal to leak to a greater extent than a standard bike anyway. This sounds lke a bad call made by one of the dealers. They may regret it if they have refused a recall service to a sidecar-equipped bike and a later accident is attributed to the failure to make the correction when the owner was responding to the recall notice and service was refused.

My point then is that a warranty is not a recall. For example, I once owned a Dodge van. It was about ten years old when I received a recall telling me that the frame could be cracked around the steering box. The recall told me to bring the vehicle to a dealer and, if cracked, it would be welded and reinforced. The vehicle warranty was long gone at that time. In my case, I checked the frame myself and found that it was crack free. Nonetheless the company would have fixed it had it needed a repair.

My 2 cents.


 
Posted : April 28, 2008 6:32 am
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Hello

Thats interesting I thought honda had tried to walk away from claims regading cracked frames on the 1800 if they had sidecars on.
It may just be the way the consumer law works in the US versus the UK.

Regards

Barry


 
Posted : April 28, 2008 10:08 am
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