I have another thread going asking for help in designing a sidecar for use by the handicapped. Prior to undertaking the sidecar on a bike approach I had a VW trike w/auto that I was working on. Anyway to get to the point I bought a electric shifter from Barry White hotrods in calif. . It comes with a computer that allows you to set the rpm that you want to shift at and it shifts at that rpm. It also ,thru the use of a small push pad, allows you to change gears by pushing the pad or holding it in that gear until you shift. AND the really neat feature of it is you can also program the computer with your own code and if that code is not entered via the touch pad within a certain amount of time after turning the key it basically locks the shifter down. Instant anti-theft device. Hey! I think I just solved my shifting problem. I forgot about it being out in the garage. Oh well, that's one of the perks of being a "gray beard" you are allowed to forget stuff every once in awhile. Now as long as the auto clutch works I'll be in hog (HARLEY) heaven.
I think what your looking for is a Pingel Elc Shifter, it has a ing cut out and is worked useing a thumb paddle.You mentioned that you couldn't open the web sites in the other posts, in this case just google 'pingel shifter and scroll down to fine the all elc shifter.
http://www.pingelonline.com/eshifter.htm
the site for this shifter is www.retrotekspeed.com. High priced. The setup I have doesn't have nearly as much hardware compared to whats shown in the pictures.
Originally written by Duster on 11/28/2008 6:39 PM
the site for this shifter is www.retrotekspeed.com. High priced. The setup I have doesn't have nearly as much hardware compared to whats shown in the pictures.
The Pingel is not inexpensive but it permits you to shift at any rpm you wish. Mine came with an ignition cutout unit so that you can shift without using the clutch. That's not my style so I'm not installing that part of the setup. I'll just use the throttle and clutch as I would ordinarily and make my shifts with the handlebar button unit. That will take the strain off of my bum left leg. I can find neutral with the regular shift levers.
I don't think having a unit that requires predetermining the rpm level for your shifting will be helpful on a sidecar unit. You will be needing more flexibility than that.
I just looked at the unit shown at www.retrotekspeed.com. It appears that it's for automatic or electronic transmissions on cars. I think it would be extremely difficult to adapt to a bike. JMO.
Good luck.
The setup is for cars. The first time I saw it, it was being installed in Boyd Coddingtons Alumatub. I watched the pingel video and the downshifts seemed pretty harsh. That's why I'm trying to get as much info as possible on the "Harley auto clutch". If the clutch will soften up the downshifts then I'll go with the pingel setup.
Is the(Harley??) auto clutch your referring to?
http://www.revloc.com/
It seems for some reason revloc uses the type of motor you have to determine if their product will fit. I don't see what difference the motor, Evo or Shovelhead, would make. The clutch type should be the main factor. I've been in contact with EFM and they have what I need and motor type has nothing to do with it.
Originally written by Duster on 11/30/2008 3:56 PM
It seems for some reason revloc uses the type of motor you have to determine if their product will fit. I don't see what difference the motor, Evo or Shovelhead, would make. The clutch type should be the main factor. I've been in contact with EFM and they have what I need and motor type has nothing to do with it.
Well, you probably know more about that unit than I do but it appears that it's more designed for drag racing with fast shifts. Let us know how it works out for you.
Actually I probably know less about it than anyone. I've been in contact with Garry at EFM and he only needed to know if it was elec. start and if the clutch basket is a sealed bearing unit. It's not a bolt in deal for me. Garry will have to modify my clutch basket.
but it appears that it's more designed for drag racing with fast shifts.
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Both of the reports I read it was installed on street bikes and both reports favored it once they got used to it,,,,and didn't do a throttle blip at a stop light 🙁
Did some research before I got an electronic shifter for my handicapped sidecar and decided on the Klictronic because it has an easy to reach neutral.
If I would have had the money I might of invested in an automatic transmission but I have been using automatic tranys since becoming paralyzed after a motorbike wreck 25 years ago and wanted to use a manual again! Missing going through the gears....
Nice unit and I hope it works well for you, I do wonder how the down shifts will work out, let us know OK?, it better work cause it sure ain't cheap but I'm glad you found something that will let you grab some gears 🙂
