Hi gang. Haven't been here for a while.
Claude Stanley and I are discussing installing a reverse on the rig he is going to be building for me. I have some physical problems and the reverse on my Ural has been a Godsend. Seems the easiest way to add reverse to a rig would be an electric motor driving the sidecar wheel. The first thought would be a starter motor but I remembered reading somewhere of someone using one of those inexpensive Harbor Freight 12v winches as the gear reduction was already built in.
Anyone have experience with electric reverse in general and using a winch to power the reverse in particular?
Thanks,
Tom
P.S. I considered retro-rockets but the blast is just too hard on the paint of the Subaru sitting next to you!
Hi Sarge, look in Norm Potruff's photos on the ISOK site.
David
Thanks,
Already have Norm's photo and written description. Looking for other ideas/opinions etc.
Tom
Tom,
What's up .. didn't you like my push poll idea? Geeze.
To be frank, Sir, the idea of motivating a 600 lb rig in the same manner as a Venetian gondola just somehow doesn't "sing" to me!
Searched the garage today and found one of the two winches. I fear my "friends" thoroughly buried the other under/behind a ton of stuff when they helped me move in October.
Tom
Okay okay so the poles were not a good idea...I suppose you won't like the lasso and the come-a-long system either..or the squirrel on the belt deal...or...well okay I concede ...electric it is. 🙁
Claude, you forgot the carrot and the goat!
Bah,bah
David
Dang ...David you are an engineering wizard....outstanding idea! Heck after backing up you just stick the goat into the sidecar and go. On a long trip you could drink goat milk and if desperate you could even eat the goat with carrots as a side dish. Marvelous simply marvelous!
Yeah, but will a goat in your sidecar attract as many girls as a puppy?
Sarge
For you my friend...yes.
This man wants electric Claude, Think man,think.
Forget the carrot, a cattle prod is the proper electrical incentive.
The applied roller method (like the auxiliary electric motors added to bicycles) might be a practical solution.
-matt
There are many options and the applied roller system is for sure a vaild one. We need to weigh suspension design and it ability to adapt to a reverse system whatever it may be, cost versus value, simplicity etc etc... Yep lots of variables to consider but we'll get it done.
If the hack has a disk break could you [waterjet] cut teeth into the outer edge of the rotor to match that of a starter motor, mount a bendix drive type starter motor and use the front break to govern the reverse speed?
Duck....I keep this up their gonna take my password away from me:)
I am paraplegic and also needed to add a reverse. I was on a budget and decided to create my own. It took some machining and precision, but it's almost done. I purchased a 1980-88 Toyota 1.5L starter($17-ebay). It has a bendix drive (solenoid) and that meshes into the Toyota Flexplate/Flywheel($8-ebay) that I machined out to fit over the brake drum. I had to purchase a Curtis Controller($235) to control the rate of speed and add a separate battery($50) in the back of the sidecar. Harley made a similar system, but did not have much luck with it. I improved the concept by adding a potbox that has a variable gain/control and more precise brackets so that the gears keep better alignment. I would be happy to send you some pics if you give me your email. Also, please see the attached link for Harley's wiring diagram. (little tricky) I made a few changes in it, but for the most part kept it similar.
http://www.sidecar.com/megabbs/profile-upload/retrieve-image.asp?uid=2600&type=photo
Please keep in mind, we have not tried it yet because the parts are getting powder coated and chromed, but we feel very confident that it should work. - Mike
