$800 for the ural which includes every thing you need including jigs (that need sent back when done) for locating every thing.
Jay Giese
Dauntless Motors Corporation
www.dauntlessmotors.com
Thanks!
I have one with and one without! I would say Tilt and a Brake are ALWAYS a good idea. The one with the tilt is much easier to drive over the long haul! Anyone that says you don't need it has never had it! LOL
Dundertaker!
Folks say the same thing about: Harleys, Hondas, Ducatis, Beemers, Stick shift vs Automatic and Blondes. But do they really know all that much about everyone else's preferences?
I've had electric tilt setups and stand by my original opinion.
Like GPS, CD players, Stereos, Cup holders, Tribal artwork and Bling, Bling, I don't care for it on my rigs. Again, my scald on it.
Well, for me, I like to be able to do some simple adjustments on the fly as road conditions change, weoght in sidecar changes or when going up a hill or whatever. The manual or electric tilt or lean out devices allow this. It do make a diference.
Brake on sidecar? I can take it or leave it.
GPS? Lonnie, I am still a rand mcnally person too....LOL
Yeah Claude,
The Vetter Terraplane had a pretty simple failsafe adjuster, didn't it?
It even worked with a dead battery.
Lonnie
Hi Lonnie & Claude,
I'm building a manual one for my Velorex and I figure about 1 inch of travel each direction plus the strut adjustments. About right?
David
>>>Yeah Claude,
The Vetter Terraplane had a pretty simple failsafe adjuster, didn't it?
It even worked with a dead battery.
Lonnie<<<
Yes, The Terraplane was a good one with a true lean out adjustment.Back in th emid eighties I put a lot of miles on a Terraplane rig and it spoiled me due to th eability to adjust it on th efly.
We have an early Motorvation Formula II with the manul tilt adjuster..it works very well also.
>>>Hi Lonnie & Claude,
I'm building a manual one for my Velorex and I figure about 1 inch of travel each direction plus the strut adjustments. About right?
David
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David,
Sorry but I am not real sure what you mean by '1 inch of travel...'.
Are you actually adjusting the lean out or tilting the whole rig?
Sorry for being so thick headed but can you explain more?
Claude,
The plan is to make a beam to go on top of the inside rail of the side car frame and anchor the upper struts to it instead of the side car frame. It will be hinged to the front and rear frame rails inboard about 4 inches and then raised and lowered about an inch each direction with a manual screw.
David
That is interesting. Due to it having angles involved you may want to mock it up and decide from there how much actual travel you may really need. It should not be too much to make a difference if all think remaind equal but on a velorex with the soft suspension the thing will be affected more by load and road camber changes than if the suspension was stiffer. .
I mentioned earlier about running a torsion bar under the velorex frame and being able to tilt the whole rig that way. It worked very good . This was the same basic principle as motorvation uses on the fomula II.
I did build one once that had a hoop comeing up from the inside sidecar frame. The upper front strut angled foward to connect the the hoop and the rear one angled back to the hoop. To adjust lean out these struts were clamped on with pinch blocks to the hoop. You could move them closer together or move them futher apart to change leanout. Easy to do but could not be done 'on the fly'' so to speak.
I was thinking of adding Lonnie's heavy duty suspension and wheel also.
That would be a step in the right direction I think.
Claude,
Was that torsion bar the VW type or an open bar like a "swaybar"?
David
It was actually a torsion bar off of a sprint car. They are splined on both ends to allow you to put a 'torsion arm' on one end and an adjustable 'torsion stop' on the other. Go to speedwaymotors.com and you can see them there. If you have any sprint cars around your area there should be used parts available you can pick up for a song.
The BMW rig I am building now has torsion bar supension on all three wheels, plus a swaybar.
