Noob here.
I had a line on a Ural T but my loan fell through, so Plan B. I have a '78 R80/7 and I recently scored a pretty rough but salvageable Dnepr sidecar off CL. It's missing the wheel. I'm wondering what the consensus is about sidecar brakes:
"Absolutely necessary!" or, "Hell no -don't need one!" I have heard both. What say ye netizens?
Also, I'm starting with the stock forks and a brace. Will I be OK with the stock single disc and a braided line or should I find a double disc setup? I have even heard retrofit a drum.
I'll save the leading link question until later. I'm going to trust to just wide bars at first and see how it goes.
Thanks for any input!
I have a complete Dnepr backing plate with brakes we got from State Motors (Dnepr dealer) and never used. It's still in the box.
$35.00 +shpg.
Lonnie
If the side car has brakes, learn to use them. You will not regret it.
Phelonius
I've been reading up on breaks for the car also. What do the experts think about a "perportioinal" brake controler such as this one?
http://www.etrailer.com/Brake-Controller/Hayes/81741B.html
Here is a little info on what a perportional brake controler does:
http://www.etrailer.com/faq-brakecontroller.aspx
These units are for cars or trucks pulling trailers that have electric operated brakes.
The aftermarket proportional brake setups for bikes consist of an adjustable proportioning valve placed in a brake circuit that controls the amount of fluid going to the slave cylinder to obtain a balance of braking control between the bike and the sidecar.
Lonnie
Thanks Lonnie,
I take it then that these electric brake systems have no place in the sidecar world? I was thinking that you could use an electric brake, but I didn't know how to deal with the "all-or-nothing" nature of electric brakes until I came across the proportional controller concept.
Guess I'll have to look into the hydrolic systems if I decide I need a brake on the hack. My rig is an Auburn Gemini on a GL1100. I have a build thread going here in the tech section if you are interested.
The doublewide cars are the only ones I prefer to have brakes. If you decide to go with brakes I have a compact (new) proportioning valve for $50. Measures only1"x1 3/4"x 3" high.
Lonnie
OldSchool_IsCool - 4/20/2011 11:53 AM
Thanks Lonnie,
I take it then that these electric brake systems have no place in the sidecar world? I was thinking that you could use an electric brake, but I didn't know how to deal with the "all-or-nothing" nature of electric brakes until I came across the proportional controller concept.
Guess I'll have to look into the hydrolic systems if I decide I need a brake on the hack. My rig is an Auburn Gemini on a GL1100. I have a build thread going here in the tech section if you are interested.
Not really,
I have a Ural sidecar with mechanical drum brake on a DR650 Suzuki which has a hydraulic disc on the rear wheel.
I created a semiflexible link between the two brakes.
If I press my foot on the normal bike brake pedal, I get mostly rear brake and some sidecar brake action. This is for normal stopping.
I have a second pedal slightly forward and to the right that when pressed Gives mostly sidecar brake and some rear brake. It is a leverage thing between the two brakes. The pedal operates a belcrank that works the mechanical sidecar brake while putting pressure on the regular rear brake mastercylinder.
This variable brake gives great control especially in downhill situations where more sidecar brake is needed, or to assist in a downhill right turn.
Phelonius
A neat solution Phelonius! You must have GREAT foot dextarity!
My rig is still in pieces, so I'm not sure what brake, if any, I need to invest in. The current hub doesn't have any brake components at all. It looks like a standard 4 on 4 trailer spindle and hub. That's why I was looking at trailer parts.
Guess I'll know more once I get the rig together and see what her braking charactaristics are like.
OldSchool_IsCool - 4/21/2011 7:51 AM
A neat solution Phelonius! You must have GREAT foot dextarity!
My rig is still in pieces, so I'm not sure what brake, if any, I need to invest in. The current hub doesn't have any brake components at all. It looks like a standard 4 on 4 trailer spindle and hub. That's why I was looking at trailer parts.
Guess I'll know more once I get the rig together and see what her braking charactaristics are like.
As a point of fact, I have lousy foot dexterity due to severe neuropathy. I can barely walk
The fact is the brake is so simple to use , it works well.
Phelonius
