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I am new on the sidecar deal, but would like to put one on my R1200R. Found a used Ural sidecar, my question is how difficult will it be to adapt the mounting system to my bike?
Are URAL sidecars good to begin with? or should I look for something different?
The one I found has drum brakes, which concern me because it differs from the bike disc brakes.
I appreciate any comments or recommendations.


 
Posted : November 2, 2010 9:11 am
(@Hack__n)
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A mount set is available for the R1200C. Not being all that BMC savvy I don't know what the difference is between the two models. Sometimes it's just fairings and accessories.
The URAL can be converted to disc brakes (pricey) or a separate pedal can be mounted for independent operation. I've used the latter method since the disc brake setup still leaves a lot to be desired for a good linked system. I'd rather use no brake with the URAL since a disc will give erratic braking at best.
The URAL sidecar is well matched to the BMW bikes. They are after all a BMW clone. The /2 mounts will have to be upgraded to adjustable mounts. Some welding may be needed to accomplish this, depending upon how old of a sidecar you have. Later models have a pinch tube at each lower mount and won't need to be altered. Earlier models have a welded on collet mount that must be removed and replaced with a pinch tube to accept an adjustable mount. These will attach to the bike mounted sub-frame and give you infinite adjustability to align and level the sidecar correctly.
You may or may not want to consider steering modifications to ease the steering after a sidecar is installed. If this is done the steering will be very easy but the bike can no longer be used as a solo bike with trail reduction.
A steering damper may also be needed to eliminate nose wiggle at slow speeds.

Lonnie


 
Posted : November 2, 2010 3:33 pm
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Lonnie, thanks for all this information, is very helpful. I enjoy riding my bike solo, the sidecar is only an added feature so I can take my dog with me. So making modifications to the bike is not an option.
The truth is, I am still debating between a sidecar or a good trailer. Seems that a sidecar would require a lot of work just to put on and off.


 
Posted : November 3, 2010 3:03 am
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Most people don't take the hack off more than once or twice. It's too labor intensive and gets to be a hassle.
You might consider an inexpensive secondary outfit for taking the dog. Many others do this so they can leave their solo tourer intact.
There are quite a few turnkey older rigs that show up for sale here in the classifieds. All you need is a bit more storage space.
Your pooch would love it.

Lonnie


 
Posted : November 3, 2010 7:59 am
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I will 2nd Lonnie's suggestion re: an less expensive dedicated sidecar rig for the dog. The power and technology of a R1200R isn't necessary to take to the dog for ride. I suspect you can locate a suitable complete rig for similar cost of converting the R bike.

By the way, we recently acquired a R850R and finally have it roadworthy. Wonder if a Hannigan Sprint would make a sporting combination??


Lee
MB5+TW200+CRF250L+GTV300+INT650
XL883R w/Texas Ranger Sidecar
Zuma 50F + Burgman w/Texas Sidecar<Mrs. SwampFox

 
Posted : November 3, 2010 5:28 pm
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You guys are correct. Getting a second rig with a dedicated sidecar is the most logical way to go. And besides, you can never have too many bikes.
thanks for your inputs guys.


 
Posted : November 4, 2010 3:23 am
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Lonnie, just wanted to update you on my search for a sidecar to fit my BMW R1200R.
I am the proud new owner of a 2007 URAL with sidecar. Bought it last week. This is the best!
Although I had never driven a sidecar before, I feel fairly comfortable. Not quite ready for the interstate yet, but will do a trip to Key west in December (about 200 miles from home), and it should be a lot of fun.
Thanks again for the suggestions.
Harold


 
Posted : November 29, 2010 10:00 am
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Congrats on the Ural rig, Harold. How is your dog taking to the sidecar? Be careful learning to drive. Try not to let the dog distract you; that was a little difficult for me. Pics - We need pics if you can.


Lee
MB5+TW200+CRF250L+GTV300+INT650
XL883R w/Texas Ranger Sidecar
Zuma 50F + Burgman w/Texas Sidecar<Mrs. SwampFox

 
Posted : November 29, 2010 3:26 pm
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Dog is doing great on the sidecar. I rigged a "seatbelt" that attaches to his harness, so I am not worried about him falling off. That keeps me focus on driving the new rig. I am still very green on this, but practice makes perfection, right??
how do I attach pictures to this thread?

Attached files


 
Posted : December 1, 2010 7:56 am
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Without photobucket or similar application you can resize pix to under 200kb, check "attach a file after posting" before submitting and follow the instructions. To add to a previous post, go to edit and check add/remove and browse to your pic, then submit.

L.


 
Posted : December 1, 2010 8:18 am
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thanks.
here we go, a couple of pics of the new (2007) URAL Tourist. the thing is a beauty.

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Posted : December 1, 2010 8:25 am
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Dog and Chauffeur look happy. Be careful. Jena and I both suggest a sidecar training class if available in your area.


Lee
MB5+TW200+CRF250L+GTV300+INT650
XL883R w/Texas Ranger Sidecar
Zuma 50F + Burgman w/Texas Sidecar<Mrs. SwampFox

 
Posted : December 1, 2010 6:14 pm
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Good choice on not modifying your R1200R. I have a K1200 LT with a Hannigan 2+2 sidecar. On/off is 10-15 minutes using air tools and the mounts on the bike side are not very noticeable. I usually install the sidecar 4-6 times a year. Easy and quick. I made a storage rack for the sidecar out of 3 Harbor Freight car moving dollies and a chunk of 2x10. Very easy to roll around and minimizes hanger rash.

Enjoy the Ural!

Loren


 
Posted : December 30, 2010 4:03 am