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Posted by: @miles-ladue

Posted by: @calvin-watson

So about the VTOMAN X7/X5 that Drew posted. Are the battery clamps fairly large? On my 1500 Goldwing there is not much room to get to the battery to jump it. The terminals are kinda under the seat some what. I can barely get the small leads from a battery tender jr hooked up. I like the idea of a jump starter but won't do me any good if I can't hook it up.

I know this is a big ask. But does anyone have the VTOMAN and a battery tender lead they could do a size comparison? Thanks

Calvin, asking questions like this makes us all concerned about the welfare of Sidecar Willie. Excitement  

Here is the very simple fix to all your problems in this life.....

Attach the Battery Tender leads to your battery, as in...attach each lead to the battery post, using the battery bolts, so that the Battery Tender lead is somewhat permanently attached to the battery, then run the SAE end of that battery Tender lead out to the side of the bike, typically up to a location around the passenger grab handles, or the LEFT side rear guard, that chrome rail loop just in front of the left saddlebag, and secure it with a tie-wrap, or two.

Doing this, means you can easily plug in a Battery Tender to this lead, that is now semi-permanently bolted to the battery, and can easily keep the battery topped up, or unplug it, and go for a drive.

Regarding the use of the VTOMAN X7/X5, that is even easier.

If the newly acquired VTOMAN X7, or X5 does not already come with a lead that has the SAE end on it, then simply cut the battery "clamps" off the wires supplied with that newly acquired VTOMAN unit, and install a SAE end to those wires, so that you can easily plug that VTOMAN unit into the leads on the bike, that are not attached to the battery.

Most electrical items come with the option of having a SAE connector on the end, to plug it into an existing lead. In MY case, since I have 7 of these Battery Tender Jr's on my ranch, I have several of these battery leads that have the SAE end on them, and if the VTOMAN units I receive do not have the SAE connector on the end of one of the leads, then I will do the modification that I laid out above, so that it will take me 6 seconds to connect the VTOMAN unit to my battery, once all is said and done.

IMPORTANT note: Before you modify any end of wires, to add the SAE connector...make 100% certain that you have labeled the Positive + and the Negative - ends of the leads that are already connected to your bike's battery. Check it again, and again, so that when you add the SAE connector to the end of the lead FROM the VTOMAN unit, it is wired correctly, to plug in to the SAE lead that is going to your bike's battery.

No crossing of wires here....okay ?

Every motorcycle, and all of my cars, have a Battery Tender lead bolted on to the battery terminals, and the lead wiring is fed to a location, and secured with tie-wraps, so that I can EASILY plug in a Battery Tender Jr. within seconds if I have a need to. Once you do this, there is NEVER a need to remove a seat, or a side panel. 

https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-081-0069-6-Terminal-Disconnect/dp/B000NCOKZQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BiBBgqqbelQAttAHtirVR_qvAC6taMUYQPAJXqoOtHhKW67Od2ph4jrhh2eIzbr48RJifHl2VQ5H9ZOYzI-Izadh7xv4alYtFwBo31xv6ayFzxu3jnFgZQ3bBAiO_XSp35THE1M3gRHtlWjAQ9B-IVN0L9RXRYYDgLmNsodOLtmj5ekGmJI44f_389nRX6e4aFsB0RCDrlC0nBpqBNNFLuunu_Yd5NxXyFNhHK-MQmelfGHOe4sjLAJIqayuzrgMRqlVjqbDVjsYZUxRGuOmoBjxxcDbyfeF_I0SOgUA7Yk.iSoOe6qwPmDp467c13ti2cmhl3GxjhcUzMswJwca_Qc&dib_tag=se&keywords=battery%2Btender%2Bleads&qid=1724082110&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

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And Calvin, I have several of these in my shop as extras, so...If you want, I can bring a couple of them to you at the Flint Hills Rally.

BTW, my local Honda/Suzuki/Polaris dealer does this on EVERY vehicle they sell, even prior to that vehicle being put on the showroom.                        Part of their PDI is that they install a Battery tender lead to the battery on every vehicle, so it is ready to go.

 

 

Miles, Miles, Miles. There you go doubting me again. I DO HAVE a battery tender jr sae lead bolted to the battery going up into the right side fairing pocket. There I have a cig lighter socket with a usb charger. And I keep the battery plugged in all winter.

 

Now here's where it gets tricky. If you slow down hot rod and re-read my post I'm talking about JUMPING the battery while it is in the bike. NOT charging it. Now here's where it gets REAL tricky because I could be wrong about this part. I believe the wires on the sae lead are too small for any kind of JUMP starting? Is that correct? Just low amp charging, right? So if I want to JUMP start the bike with this JUMPER BOX we are talking about I would need to connect the alligator clamps right onto the battery, hence my concern.

 


 
Posted : August 19, 2024 4:50 pm
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Oh, Calvin....if I'm  the  hot rod, then Sidecar Willie  must be taking care of the  "cold rod".

I knew exactly what you were talking about  in your  post.....I  didn't  miss  a thing.

For Jump Starting  purposes,  which is a relatively  quick application  of higher  amperage  to a Battery that is  low  enough  on static  charge that  it needs  a "boost", the  wires in the  Battery Tender  leads are  heavy  enough.  The  concern  should be the  in-line fuse, as that most likely will not  withstand a  power surge  at the level  necessary to  jump start a Battery,  so that the  bike engine can  start.

Okay,  to make  you happy......replace the  currently  installed-line   Battery Tender  leads, and install your own  heavy Guage copper  wires to the  battery, with an SAE plug on the  end.....no in-line fuse, then the jump start pack will be  safe to  use.

Benefit  # 314 as to why a Goldwing  1800 is better.....the bike Battery is much easier to get to. 


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Posted : August 19, 2024 5:41 pm
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 Drew
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Here's a picture of the Battery Tender Jr leads next to the VTOMAN's leads.  Keep in mind this is the bigger version but they are likely the same size as the smaller version.

 

As others have said, you are probably best served by putting an SAE plug on the bike and adapting from there.

 

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Posted : August 20, 2024 8:44 am
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