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(@horrorguy)
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i see several of these reverse gear kits on ebay.anyone have any experances with this product? i am thinking about one of these [planning ahead].

 
Posted : March 11, 2011 10:03 am
(@Hack__n)
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I put one on my Turbo RoadKing/Spyder rig. Only used it twice since the positioning of the shifter caused severe burns from the exhaust.
The drive gear is only held to the shaft with Loc-tite so if one uses too much throttle strange things can happen.
I'm using the AIM reverse kits now that don't require sawing off any shafts. The drive gear bolts on and there are 2 replacable bronze shear keys to save your transmission if you try a reverse burnout. No burnt hands either.

Lonnie

 
Posted : March 11, 2011 3:56 pm
(@horrorguy)
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Thank Lonnie,is there a website ? those exhaust pipe burns are brutal so grabbing a handfull of exhaust pipe instead of a shifter isnt my idea of fun.

 
Posted : March 11, 2011 4:24 pm
(@gnm109)
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Hack'n - 3/11/2011 5:56 PM

I put one on my Turbo RoadKing/Spyder rig. Only used it twice since the positioning of the shifter caused severe burns from the exhaust.
The drive gear is only held to the shaft with Loc-tite so if one uses too much throttle strange things can happen.
I'm using the AIM reverse kits now that don't require sawing off any shafts. The drive gear bolts on and there are 2 replacable bronze shear keys to save your transmission if you try a reverse burnout. No burnt hands either.

Lonnie

Yeah, I looked at the Champion installation instructions and I didn't like the fact that you are required to remove 1/4" from the sector shaft and also do some milling on the inside of the sidecover. That's a non-starter for me. I don't cut and chop on my motorcycle. They also use some sort of plastic set screws. (Huh, plastic set screws in a Harley transmission?....Loctite holding a gear on? Huh?)

The other issue is the MSRP. They get something like $1,495 for the kit which is a lot of money for three gears and some nuts and screws. If the one you have is more solid, it would be better than the Champion.

 
Posted : March 11, 2011 4:29 pm
(@Hack__n)
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www.aim-tamaghi.com

 
Posted : March 11, 2011 5:47 pm
(@gnm109)
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Here's a video regarding the Aim Corp. reverse. Something about engaging first gear and then the reverse is mentioned.

http://www.hotbikeweb.com/videos/01/aim_corporation_mamba_reverse_gear_install/3079/index.html

 
Posted : March 11, 2011 6:20 pm
(@Hack__n)
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First gear (to stop the gears from spinning) then neutral, then shift to reverse. Eliminates the possibility of raking gears.

L.

 
Posted : March 12, 2011 5:44 am
(@horrorguy)
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makes me wish i had never gotten rid of that old police bike with the 3speed /reverse electric start .

 
Posted : March 12, 2011 4:48 pm
(@gnm109)
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horrorguy - 3/12/2011 6:48 PM

makes me wish i had never gotten rid of that old police bike with the 3speed /reverse electric start .

Those were a very good transmission, too. I had one when I got a 1947 61" Harley that had formerly been a Hot Dog wagion. It had been fitted with a large commercial box sidecar to carry out that function.

Whatever you may say about Harleys, they do have a great deal of low speed torque. There are other bikes that have as much or more torque but not at 1,500 rpm on up. That's why I wondered why nowadays they are fitted with six speed transmissions. They certainly don't need six speeds. Anyway, that's too much shifting for me and unnecessary to my way of thinking. If I could, I'd be perfectly happy with a hand shift and a three or four speed.

While we are on the topic of reverse gears, I took a demo ride on one of the new HD trikes a while back. It's a nice machine and very easy to handle. In order to use the reverse, you start the engine and stay in neutral. There is a reverse arming button on the left handlebar that is locked out when the machine is in gear . Once the arming circuit is engaged, you press the reverse button and the trike will back up using an electric motor.

The only problem that I noticed was that the reverse was very abrupt. That is, it was rather jerky. This could be fixed with some sort of pulse width circuit so that the power comes on more gradually.

In any case, for 2011, the reverse on the HD trike will be standard equipment rather than an option. They certainly need a reverse since backing up with a trike would otherwise be problematical. At around $32,000 MSRP, they should have some extras, ya think?

Maybe we could start a petition to Harley-Davidson to have them bring back Panheads with three and reverse, hand shift and reverse gear. I'll sign one! LOL.

 
Posted : March 13, 2011 6:06 am
(@horrorguy)
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when it comes to trikes i would rather have an old servi-car than a new harley trike.i perfer sidecars though.there was a nice old harley with a sidecar [electric start reverse] that showed up on ebay near me.but i would have to sell my desoto and i really like that old car.but for $32000 i could have 2 or 3 nice old sidecar set ups

 
Posted : March 13, 2011 6:39 am
(@gnm109)
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horrorguy - 3/13/2011 8:39 AM

when it comes to trikes i would rather have an old servi-car than a new harley trike.i perfer sidecars though.there was a nice old harley with a sidecar [electric start reverse] that showed up on ebay near me.but i would have to sell my desoto and i really like that old car.but for $32000 i could have 2 or 3 nice old sidecar set ups

I also had a 45" Harley Servicar when I was a kid. It was before they ever brought out the reverse electric start for them. That was towards the end of the line for the Model G Servicar.

 
Posted : March 13, 2011 6:52 am
(@horrorguy)
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the servi-cars i liked because they were the old 45 flathead.my first bike was a 42 WLA army bike so i love those old flatheads.plus i like the look of them.

 
Posted : March 13, 2011 7:33 am
(@stevesidecar)
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I had a Champion Reverse installed on my 2003 Ultra/TLE sidecar. Nothing but problems. I should have known better then install something in my trans thats held in place by lock-tite. It let go and completely destroyed my trans. Just a waste of money, unfortunately....

 
Posted : March 16, 2011 6:31 pm
(@horrorguy)
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after looking at the instruction sheet where you hack up the tranns case i said oh no way.i dont like stuff like that.

 
Posted : March 17, 2011 10:09 am