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I've been searching online for instances of twin sidecars and one bike (symmetrically mounted) and I've found nothing. Does anyone know if this would work?

 
Posted : March 26, 2004 8:56 pm
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There was a guy a few years ago who did this. Sidecar on each side. The thing hooked up so the bike still leaned between them. There was an article in hack'd on this which I think was titled 'my twins'. If I remember right this thing was going to be marketed as a trailer due ,in part, to the way it mounted but the powers that be created a huge hurdle to overcome. The argument was that it had four wheels and thus it was a car. And if it was a traile rpeople copuld not be hauled in it.
If you contact Chris at Hack'd maybe she would know if that issue is still available as a backissue.
Or you may wish to cone to SCT. In the files section there is a listing of the Backissues available.
(See address below.)
Does anyone else have info on this? Was mine accurate?

 
Posted : March 27, 2004 1:18 am
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Yeah, I remember reading that article too.
I can see where one would have some real shoulder work and real tire wear due to the neccessity of toe in for handling and dragging the outside sidecar sideways in every turn. A novelty yes, practical, I don't know.

 
Posted : March 27, 2004 7:08 am
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I remember that also in Hack'd but can't remember the issue. As for two sidecars,I'm thinking strictly novelty but sounds like fun.

 
Posted : March 27, 2004 9:51 am
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In 1994, there was a gentleman at Americade who had a home made rig that was two sidecars and the rear of the motorcycle all incorporated into one body. His profession was doing fiberglass work and he did a fine job on his outfit. I think he eliminated the rear motorcycle wheel so it was more like a trike in that regard. I will post two pictures in the album titled Dual Sidecars, if I can figure out how to do it.

Bruce

 
Posted : March 27, 2004 10:48 am
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If you need two sidecars -Buy a convertable!!!!If your need is for more space maybe you should consider a trailer.This would be safer .

 
Posted : March 29, 2004 10:40 am
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There was an "attachment" that comes close to being two sidecars. It was made for small Hondas. It had a utility box on each side with a padded seat on top of each box. It had two wheels on stub axles and it mounted with a long bolt that went trough the same hole that the rear swing arm did. I believe it was made in Iowa or Minnesota. A couple of them have appeared on eBay and they brought big prices. I guess it was in recognition of their "weirdness factor".

So, the answer is yes, it can be done but then a lot of "not so great ideas" are possible but that doesn't make them good ideas.

 
Posted : March 29, 2004 3:07 pm
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My concern is that this now has 4 wheels and as such is no longer a bike as federal law defines a motorcycle as having 3 or fewer wheels.
This would also apply to the "Voyager" and "insta trike" kits as well as the new EML sidecar with two wheels.
I bet if there was an accident a lawyer would have fun in court with it.

 
Posted : March 29, 2004 3:21 pm
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Yep, "number of wheels" puts an interesting spin on things. I wonder if "full time" and "part time" wheels make a difference? There was a guy making electrically deployed "training wheels" for Gold Wings. Below "x" speed, the wheels deployed so the Wing wouldn't go tango uniform. Does that make it a car? Wonder how the helmet laws apply?

Way back when, Isettas had four wheels EXCEPT in the UK where they had three and a big honking weight under the front bumper on the right side to keep them upright. Three wheeled vehicles were taxed as motorcycles and that made the Isetta marketable in the UK.

 
Posted : March 29, 2004 3:37 pm
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I watched a guy with the Goldwing deployable outriggers making a slow tight turn into an A&W drive-in in Lynnwood, WA with a sloped driveway. He almost made it but the rig tipped over and destroyed several $$$$$ worth of plastic bodywork. Not the best answer for slow speed stability in my estimation. I think Ralph Nader had a phrase for it.

 
Posted : March 30, 2004 7:00 am
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Hello everyone! I'm a new sidecar owner (one week), and I've thought of this same possibility. I recently took delivery of a 2004 Hannigan Astro 2+2 and mounted it to my 97 Goldwing SE. With a wife and three kids, someone is still left out on a family ride. Since Hannigan makes the TriCar, I tried to imagine one of those mounted on both sides. That would solve the 4th wheel problem because it would essentially still be a trike. Just a thought. Thanks for all the info I've collected from all of you over the past few months. It's been invaluable, and I'm sure I'll continue to learn more. Hopefully I'll even be able to contribute someday.

 
Posted : March 30, 2004 12:26 pm
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The rig that was discussed early in this thread and had been wriiten up in Hack'd many moons ago was interesting. It was attempeted to be called a trailer instead of a sidecar in that it was said to be towed...not behind the bike but beside it. This was the 'argument' on being able to have four wheels. I guess the arguement was not deemed valid ..wish I knew the whole story.Interesting....

 
Posted : March 31, 2004 2:19 am
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TWIN SIDECAR PICS FOUND !
The Millrons, Carl and Cindy, have sent me an email with pictures of the twin sidecar that I had mentioned earlier.
Below is the email and the pics are in the photo album here that is called 'Claude's stuff'. There are my typical typos on the pictures but you all should get the idea.
THANKS GO TO Carl and Cindy Milliron!!

THE EMAIL:
>>Claude,
I saw there was interest in double cars. Here are some pictures we took in Mercer,PA in 1982. He had a trailer ball on the front of his bike frame and a fold down hitch on the sidecar. He leaned the bike between the cars and said they naturally tracked away from the bike to give more room. It was very wide .... Also it could be considered a trailer and I don't think it would be legal to carry people in.
I'm still working on my Triumph Tiger/ Sputnik but I don't have any pictures yet because we have an old type camera that still uses film and we didn't finish the roll yet.
Carl Milliron <<

 
Posted : March 31, 2004 3:50 pm
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Amazing! The bike would seem to be pulling a β€œstep through trailer”. The ball hitch would compensate for any lean in the bike, while the duel sidecars would remain stable and flat in turns. I would wonder on tire scuffing through turns however. It would also seem to be that you would have no abnormal strain on the bike frame as you find in a normal side hack as all the forces would be on the center line of the bike. So no β€œsurge ahead, lag behind effects. Only main problem I see is you only have a β€œone-point” connection. That goes and it would be head over tea kettle all the way down the road. This would be a interesting story. Thanks Mr. & Mrs. Milliron and you too Claude.

 
Posted : March 31, 2004 5:58 pm
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they went in this combination from germany to siberia and over the frozen lake baikal. combination built by www.gespannservice.de
www.iceride.com

 
Posted : April 5, 2004 12:35 pm
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