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...for my Guzzi 1000SP?

Is there anything out there suitable for light snow/slush? Perhaps an "on/off road" type?

Thanks~


 
Posted : December 24, 2008 3:43 am
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Originally written by bill_powell on 12/24/2008 6:43 AM

...for my Guzzi 1000SP?

Is there anything out there suitable for light snow/slush? Perhaps an "on/off road" type?

Thanks~

What about the Cheng Shins that JB uses on the RAT-3? They seem to keep him upright and moving on two wheels. I thought I might give a try to a set on my EV. I wish I could afford a couple "winter rims".

For the price they're certainly worth trying. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Cheng%20Shin/Cheng_Shin_C186_Trials.htm


 
Posted : December 24, 2008 5:25 am
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Brilliant, Mike! I thought you might pop in with an answer. Those look like they might even work year-round.

Oh...think there are any clearance issues with the fenders?


 
Posted : December 24, 2008 5:52 am
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Here's the link I meant to list. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Cheng%20Shin/Cheng_Shin_C186_Trials.htm


 
Posted : December 24, 2008 6:05 am
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I'll look into them after the Holidays; thanks Mike. Have a good one~


 
Posted : December 24, 2008 3:07 pm
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Bill wrote:
>>Those look like they might even work year-round.<<

That tighter trial tread pattern was pretty popular year round with some sidecarists years ago.It will wear down quickly but once it get to a certain point and flattens off it does pretty good. During thsi 'wear in' process they will feel very 'squirmy' as they move around on the knobs quite a bit. If you are one that likes to try and drift around right handers these tires will let you do it. Coming out of a turn in front of a solo bike and leaving a big black mark on the road with some tire smoke filling the air freaks out the sport bike squids. Oops did I say that?
Doug Binmngham ran that type of tire on a large coach bodied sidecar to do the three flags classic years ago. I ran them on th erear of our '78 Goldwing rig a lot.
If you are touchy about load ratings you may shy away fromt them though. Check it out the numbers may be pretty low.
Actually under most winter conditions studs seem to do better than knobs.If you go that route stud the front and rear.


 
Posted : December 25, 2008 5:06 am
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Originally written by claude #3563 on 12/25/2008 8:06 AM

Actually under most winter conditions studs seem to do better than knobs.If you go that route stud the front and rear.

Up here on the Frozen Tundra, studs are illegal on public roads. So are chains.


 
Posted : December 25, 2008 5:25 am
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Thankfully, Idaho does not have that particular problem regarding studs & chains.

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Posted : December 25, 2008 5:52 am
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Originally written by claude #3563 on 12/25/2008 10:06 AM
Coming out of a turn in front of a solo bike and leaving a big black mark on the road with some tire smoke filling the air freaks out the sport bike squids. Oops did I say that?

Now this really begs for a picture posting, Claude.

I appreciate the input on this subject. Usually the winters here are pretty mild. More slick than snow, if you follow. However, it can get pretty slippery, and I do have some hills to contend with. Wouldn't mind finding an "all season" solution. Mike's suggestion is tempting...especially at that price.


 
Posted : December 26, 2008 4:26 am
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Hello Mike,
the tire You show is very simmular to the one I allways used on my MZ with spikes as winter spare And without spikes for summer spare and winter main tire. It works well in mud, ice and little snow. In deep snow and clay it clogged up relatively fast because of the narrow spaces.
In the bends you feel in your but how it rubbs arround the corners when you have a soft rubber like I had.

So the day I will head again for deep snow I will look more for a kind of tractor tire as you find on the BMW GS bikes that has an open thread with inclined space walls, so that the snow gets thrown out easily. If the block walls are square (as on the shown tire) the snow stays in the tread and clogs up the tire.
Just my 2 cent from where soon the summer starts.
Sven Peter
10ΒΊN, 84ΒΊW


 
Posted : December 26, 2008 5:39 pm
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Sven Peter,
Can you go to http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ and find an example to show us? Thanks


 
Posted : December 26, 2008 5:43 pm
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Bill wrote:
>>Now this really begs for a picture posting, Claude.<<

I have no pics but I am sure that if you put those close block trials tires on the Gootzie you will be able to take some of your own...LOL.
Oh, be sure and post them πŸ™‚


 
Posted : December 27, 2008 4:37 am
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For those who can use studs or chains see attached pictures...screws are from vernon wade. Ridewarehouse does sell a stud kit for bikes.

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Posted : December 27, 2008 5:08 am
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Hello Mike,
what a place to look for tires. My Computer is becomeing hot downloading pictures:
The closest to my idea I found are:

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Kenda/kenda_k335.htm
The following picture gives a good idea, I 'd like it with with much wider and deeper tread.

Perhaps: At this one I like the open thread and inclined block edges

Very important is soft rubber that will not become hard with the cold.
I remember my bicycles. The best one to cross the frozen lake was from 1952 with natural latex tires ( you still had to oil the bearings with the oiler) The worst were modern plastic tires that even broke at under 0ΒΊC.

BEst regards from where I will not have to look for these aspects... Costa Rica.
Sven Peter


 
Posted : December 29, 2008 6:32 am