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(@al-olme)
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I know that this sounds like a wise*** answer but it isn't meant to be, how about just bump starting it? The rig will be light, it should be easy to do.


 
Posted : November 29, 2011 12:45 pm
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If I was out in the sticks I'd do that, but here in Baltimore City traffic that wouldn't be an option. Gotta make quick getaways!


 
Posted : November 29, 2011 3:47 pm
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Sounds like you are up for a little fabrication adventure so I'll throw in another thought. There is occasionally an old Brit trials sidecar that shows up at Griffith Park. On this one they moved the kick start lever. Someone may have a picture out there. They replaced the kick start lever with a sprocket. Then they mounted the lever in a new location, in this case up front, with another sprocket. Then they used a bit of drive chain over the sprockets to connect the two. Don't know if this would work on your bike but hey, you're starting from scratch anyway. Barry


 
Posted : December 5, 2011 6:50 pm
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Barry's idea is very good. but then remember my hastle with the MZ. leave the kick lever far enough away from the handle bar...I tell you that akes when the kick starter whacks the knee into the handle bar....
Sven


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 4:36 am
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Moving the kickstart lever somehow is a great idea, but probably beyond my skill or tooling capacity. I think the KISS method is what will work best for me. I'm leaning towards the removable strut scenario. I'm going to get one of the engineers at work to transfer my scratches into readable CAD drawings. I'll be able to print them out full size and make wood patterns and start some trial and error fitting on the bike.....probably not until next year though!


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 5:11 am
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Oh boy CAD for something completely in the air and will be due to changes on the run anyhow...Sorry. Allthough I am told to be myself an engieneer. (Well at least a card board somewhere deep dug into the paperwork tells so.) that sounds overkill to me.
Who in hell will take those measurements? Or can you just ride the bike on top of a automatic 3 D measurement table? Such a measurement costs more than a used bike.

The wood or plastiline mold approach sounds more realistic to me.
Well sorry but perhaps I am a little out fashioned....and hands on guy.
Sven

PS I am just doing the book keeping the traditional way with double books and a sharp pencil...only the standing desk is missing...,might be that is the reason my back akes so much.


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 5:39 am
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Peter Pan - 12/6/2011 10:39 AM

Oh boy CAD for something completely in the air and will be due to changes on the run anyhow...Sorry. Allthough I am told to be myself an engieneer. (Well at least a card board somewhere deep dug into the paperwork tells so.) that sounds overkill to me.
Who in hell will take those measurements? Or can you just ride the bike on top of a automatic 3 D measurement table? Such a measurement costs more than a used bike.

The wood or plastiline mold approach sounds more realistic to me.
Well sorry but perhaps I am a little out fashioned....and hands on guy.
Sven

PS I am just doing the book keeping the traditional way with double books and a sharp pencil...only the standing desk is missing...,might be that is the reason my back akes so much.

Relax, dude. I think you're reading much more into this than I meant. I ( or rather my co-worker)can draw a reasonable facsimile of the bike's frame in CAD, which I can then print out full scale and use to make plywood patterns. Still simple and hands-on, and a lot faster than drawing it by hand on a board.
One hour, tops.

A tape measure and angle finder gets accurate enough measurements off the bike for my purposes.


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 5:48 am
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Jim, probably you are right, I was remembering my time in a factory that broke because they allways made the second step before the first one. and trying to clean that problem up I passed many weeks drawing between 93 and 96 on 2 D CAD....
Although I own a copy of 3D Solid works, I never had jobs that urged me to learn to use it.


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 6:07 am
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There is sometimes an old British tests sidecar that demonstrates up at Griffith Store. On this one they transferred the boost handle. They swapped out the boost handle with a sprocket. Then they attached the handle in a new area, in this situation up entrance, with another sprocket.

Maruti Swift


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 6:41 pm
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IndianDrives - 12/6/2011 8:41 PM

There is sometimes an old British tests sidecar that demonstrates up at Griffith Store. On this one they transferred the boost handle. They swapped out the boost handle with a sprocket. Then they attached the handle in a new area, in this situation up entrance, with another sprocket.

 

Maruti Swift

I think that is the one I'm referring to. Anyone have any pictures? B


 
Posted : December 7, 2011 4:46 am
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