Who? Where? How much? Tried it? Like it?
Dauntless has been working with electric tilt on URALS.
Most tilt systems use an electric screw jack to raise or lower the chassis and can be operated on the fly but aren't quick enough for attacking the corners. Mostly used just for trimming the rig to suit the present road camber conditions or sidecar loadings. Somewhat expensive, ugly to look at and usually not really needed on a singlewide rig. (My own scald on this).
Like linked brakes; I'll use 'em if I got 'em, but I won't pay extra for 'em.
SPEND MONEY ON GAS FOR TRAVEL. NO NEED FOR IT IF SIDECAR PROPERLY ADJUSTED. IF YOU CAN GET IT FOR FREE...
Most adjustable things are out of adjustment most of the time--RG
i have a duff norton linear actuator on my kz13 / champ legend and i would not be witout it,
even if the rig is in perfect alignment the crown in the road changes and so does the load that you carry and the actuator can trim / compensate for these changes
cost is about 350 new and about 150 on ebay
then you have to install it
like i said wouldnt be without it and i build trike and use them there too
stacy
Got more details on the Duff-Norton linear actuator? Size, part number, etc?
Not sure but I think th emanuafactirers say to only adjust the lean out at rest. But...I was fortuanate to ride Gene Crockett's hannigan/21500 wing a few years ago at th erally in Buena Vista. It had the true lean adjuster on it that Hannigan offered at the time.It worked very quickly with the use of a button on the bars!! Yes, you could come up on a right hander and lean the bike in and then straighten it up after the turn..lean it left for a left hander on the fly etc. That thing worked quickly and made a TON of diference in cornering. In fact that was one of the best cornering rigs I have ever been on due to the ability to lean it in and out so easily on the fly, recomended or not. What a 'sleeper'!!
Problems forseen?? If the leanout adjuster ever quit working for whatever reason when being used in this fashion you could easily take an unwanted off road excusrion, end up in the crash house or worse.
duffnorton.com
mpd 6405 500 lb unit
i use the 6" model
stacy
Thanks Stacy!
Claude, I'm not gonna lean THAT far, just enough to compensate for wind, load, or road conditions.
Originally written by stacebg on 7/23/2005 11:54 AM
duffnorton.com
mpd 6405 500 lb unit
i use the 6" modelstacy
Can you e-mail me pics of your setup?
ivysimpson@juno.com
Thanks!
I have a 1970 Guzzi with a Coupe Royale chair that Vern Goodwin set up for me. He put a hand adjustable turnbuckle as the third-point upper connector and this WORKS GREAT for the needed adjustments for road crown, wind drag and loading variances.
He also puts a linear actuator in this application but I opted for the low dough version.
With my chair being fully enclosed, tall and heavy I don't know how I would get along without the fine tuning that this adjuster affords me.
JMHO
Hacksaw
That's how I'd like to use a linear actuator on my URAL, but since it gas TWO struts, I'm going to use it to raise and lower the shock mount instead.
Originally written by Hacksaw_neb on 7/23/2005 7:13 PM
I have a 1970 Guzzi with a Coupe Royale chair that Vern Goodwin set up for me. He put a hand adjustable turnbuckle as the third-point upper connector and this WORKS GREAT for the needed adjustments for road crown, wind drag and loading variances.
He also puts a linear actuator in this application but I opted for the low dough version.
With my chair being fully enclosed, tall and heavy I don't know how I would get along without the fine tuning that this adjuster affords me.
JMHO
Hacksaw
Your idea is by far the simplier method. Tilting the whole rig this way will allow you to compensate for various conditions and the overall outcome will be the same. Today, this is the more common setup seen.
I had a highly modified velorex many years ago and on it had run a torsion bar below and across the sidecar frame and linked it to the sidecar swingarm. On the bike side there was a bolt that you could screw in or out to 'wind up' the torsion bar. The system worked very well, was inexpensive and easy to fabricate.
Claude
We set up about one Ural sidecar a week, Most go out with electric tilt and disk brakes. You can see photo's of the tilt set up on our web site www.dauntlessmotors.com in the dual sport section. Of the 150 sidecars a year give or take that we set up about 3/4 go out with electric tilt. Do you need it? Not really but it is very nice to have. Even more so if you do not modify the front of the bike.
Jay Giese
Dauntless Motors Corporation
Unfortunately. you're not within driving distance of me, so I have to set it up myself. How much for the parts?
Originally written by JayDauntless on 7/24/2005 11:38 AM
We set up about one Ural sidecar a week, Most go out with electric tilt and disk brakes. You can see photo's of the tilt set up on our web site www.dauntlessmotors.com in the dual sport section. Of the 150 sidecars a year give or take that we set up about 3/4 go out with electric tilt. Do you need it? Not really but it is very nice to have. Even more so if you do not modify the front of the bike.
Jay Giese
Dauntless Motors Corporation
