I know which one I would rather have but I am adding up the figures for my new ride, new sidecar, electric shifter blah blah blah! My last three rigs didn't have any sidecar brake! I must be getting wiser as the years roll by? So, I would appreciate input on this matter before I order my new rig.
Thanks,
G.
I think size really matters here. My Valkyrie does a good job of stopping without a sidecar brake, even when pulling a trailer. When I had the same sidecar on an XS850 Yamaha I would have liked a bit more.
Likewise, my Aspencade did fine pulling a tent camper with a HitchHiker and no sidecar brakes, but my 1959 Triumph/Spirit needed a bit of help.
Hey Mike. I'm looking at the vtx 1800. Dual discs up front and mechanical at rear pushing a Ural sidecar. Do you think the vtx has plenty of stopping power without adding a brake to the hack? My bud has the vtx pushing a motorvation spyder and decided there was really no need to hook up his disc brake. He wasted some extra money.
If you're riding without one now, I think you'd be fine. The VTX has plenty of brake in my mind and the sidecar brake can be added or implemented later if you think you need it. I was looking at VTX's just last night. I think a VTX/Ural combination would be a great rig and I'm looking forward to lots of pictures.
I have a VTX1300 (front & rear discs) with a beefy/ballasted velorex. No brake on the rig. There is plenty of braking power. No problem.. gp
Thanks guys, Im going to go with that info and leave the brake system on their shelf. Mike, there will be pictures as soon as unit is ready for those back roads.
Thanks,
Geoff.
I BEIEVE IN FRUGALITY BUT COULDN' YOU CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF DISC BRAKES AS A ONE TIME INSURANCE POLICY THAT WOULD PAY FOR THE LIFE OF THE UNIT
Hmmmm, you have a good point and now I have to ponder again. I am just so maxed out on this unit though I did get a superb deal from my friends father last night on the vtx. I shall do some chin scratching and gaze at the sky for a while on that one. Thanks Beanie.
Geoff.
I run an R1100GS w/Ural car and find that a separate-pedal drum brake comes in handy, especially off-road. On-road, a light application totally negates the car's push to the left while braking. The drum brake provides all the stopping power needed; i fear a disk may give you more stop (pull)than you want that far off your steering axis
Here's the thing chaps. I am paraplegic and the beauty of the vtx1800 is that it comes with some kind of factory incorporated proportioning valve that puts 80% to the front discs and 20% to the rear when front brake is applied. If I was to have a sidecar brake, it would need some fairly trick fabrication as my hands are already going to be full in the event of needing to stop in a hurry. I have thought more on this subject and have decided to leave the hack brake on their shelf. Thanks everyone,
Geoff.
I love my disk on my Champion Escort connected to my ABS on the R1200C. Stops on a dime, or small nickel.
Considering the physical disability involved, i assume your rig already has hand only controls?
Have you seen this link?
http://www.uponone.com/store.php?catid=46
Used on stunt bikes, various controls used to put the power of the rear brake to the handlebar.. I'm sure adaptable to a sidecar hydraulic brake or what have you.
I've also seen another interesting item, a hand brake with a double circuit, to independantly proportion two seperate brake systems from one control.
http://www.apracing.com/motorcycle/cylinder/data.asp?code=CP4325
Just a thought..
Originally written by Danny on 2/4/2006 4:05 PM
I run an R1100GS w/Ural car and find that a separate-pedal drum brake comes in handy, especially off-road. On-road, a light application totally negates the car's push to the left while braking. The drum brake provides all the stopping power needed; i fear a disk may give you more stop (pull)than you want that far off your steering axis
Well... my theorie is just to have it... By the way I just ordered my first Ural on also an R1100GS... with Disc and TILT...
I guess it will look something like this...
http://beemerchef.smugmug.com/gallery/1204831
... but with red paint instead of yellow...
Could you post some pictures of your set up?
I appreciate it... learning curve here...
Be well...
Ara
I've never had my rig off road on purpose, so I've never wished I had a sidecar brake. Had a drum brake on a Steib once and never hooked it up. A total waste of money for me. Not that that's the only time I ever set a pile of dough on fire or anything...
