I see side cars and trykes as the same as they both have two wheels. As far as cost, it $14000.00 to put a hannington tryke on my 2002 bmw lt. It would cost about the same for a sidecar rig, the one I want. I think a tryke will get better gas mileage, my 1978 bmw r100?7 gets about 25 mpg at 70-75 mph. Around the Smoley Mountains area I seen alot of trykes, very few sidecar rigs. I think a tryke is one way to go, so why not welcome them and get off the high horse attitude that a side hack is the only way to go three wheels.
Originally written by quack947 on 9/8/2007 9:49 PM
I see side cars and trykes as the same as they both have two wheels. As far as cost, it $14000.00 to put a hannington tryke on my 2002 bmw lt. It would cost about the same for a sidecar rig, the one I want. I think a tryke will get better gas mileage, my 1978 bmw r100?7 gets about 25 mpg at 70-75 mph. Around the Smoley Mountains area I seen alot of trykes, very few sidecar rigs. I think a tryke is one way to go, so why not welcome them and get off the high horse attitude that a side hack is the only way to go three wheels.
Believe it or not I like trikes. I think the conversions done today are a neat deal, I think the older school VW rigs were neat and I also like the wild V8 powered trikes. The reverse trike is gaining in popularity and I really think we will see a lot more of these in the future.
I also like a lot of other things but this is a sidecar forum isn't it?
WHY doesn't the trike crowd have a club similar to the USCA ETC? Yes, the Brothers of the Third wheel has been around for a long time but are they oriented to the newer types of trikes? I don't know.
There is no high horse here my friend but why should a sidecar club or website intergrate with trikes? They are not even close to being the same thing except for the number of wheels.
I don't think that sidecarists are "on their highhorse" at all.
Sidecarists prefer sidecars, that's why they drive rigs; there are plenty of venues for trikers and that's fine.
As for me, I was strongely told by my buddies to go the trike route. I didn't because my preference is simply sidecars.
After all, this is a sidecar forum.
Originally written by claude #3563 on 9/8/2007 7:11 PM
I also like a lot of other things but this is a sidecar forum isn't it?
WHY doesn't the trike crowd have a club similar to the USCA ETC? Yes, the Brothers of the Third wheel has been around for a long time but are they oriented to the newer types of trikes? I don't know.
There is no high horse here my friend but why should a sidecar club or website intergrate with trikes? They are not even close to being the same thing except for the number of wheels.
Claude, I disagree. Trikes and sidecars are very similar; the differences are small.
Sidecars and trikes are very similar. This is particularly true when you consider the many iterations of the sidecar-think of competive worms, or Hannigans model which is offset bot not symetrical. Are these trikes or sidecars? Many sidecars are purpose built with a single frame rather than a hack hooked to the bike. not all have the front and rear wheel in a line. Trikes and sidecars share most of the same handling traits.The same steering modifications work for both. Trikes and sidecars are veiwed by the public the same way and will be treated politically and legally as one and the same.
Trikes and sidecars both are a tiny part of the motorcycle and aftermarket industry. Combining our numbers would increase our buying power and promote our corner of the industry.
You want to promote sidecars? You need to expose the general population to sidecars. If a search for trikes leads one to the USCA site you will expose folks shopping for trikes to sidecars as well. People who have never considered a sidecar would have a chance to see that sidecars have certain advantages over trikes which might influence their purchase.
As I stated earlier, I think we could benefit by getting new memebers and by gaining some new perspective. Adding a trike forum would cost us nothing, would not change our main focus on sidecars. Why not try it?
I agree.
Triker's have their own forum. The "Brothers Of The Third Wheel" is for trikers only. I think they might also allow Sisters with trikes.
I see no mention of Sidehacks being welcome, however.
Jeeps, ATV's and Snowmobiles also do a lot of offroading and backroading. Why not include them too? LOL
Then we could call it "The Unified Association"
Lonnie
Alright, it's an unpopular idea, I give...
VW
Originally written by RedMenace on 9/10/2007 9:49 PM
Alright, it's an unpopular idea, I give...
VW
Good , Glad to hear that.
I got to thinking about this topic again this morning as I was enjoying a leisurly cup of coffee on my back porch. The whole trike subject came up last night when an old Army bro called to tell me about his latest barn find ,an old Triumph trike with a "c-cab", much like one he remembered me having a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (1st Cavalry Division (AIR), Ft. Hood, Texas... during the Carter administration I believe...)
Which got me to thinking about this discussion. Now, if there are three people whose opinions I respect and value when it comes to sidecarring specifically and motorcycles in general more than Lonnie, Vernon, and Claude, I'd be hard pressed to name them. Heck, Claude could change his avatar to a burning bush and if he's talking sidecars I'd be ok with that. I also know that the three of you have a wide array of experiences on two, three, and four wheel motorsports. I know there is some triking in there.
So, FWIW, I see no reason not to have a "Trikes, Solo's, and others" section here. Takes up minimum bandwidth and costs us nothing. Think about it, how many times has a thread started with "not actually sidecar related but I can't get an answer anywhere else? (or words to that effect.)
If we can help one person with a trike question, that gets them to read our forums, maybe his bud is thinking about a sidecxar, he tells him how we helped, bud visits us, starts talking sidecars, next thing you know he's a dues paying member.
Point is, it can't harm us to put a forum in for off sidecar tech talk. I usually think of these forums as a "virtual campfire" and how far off topic can the campfire talk get at any rally?
Just my two cents worth on this. Worth every penny...
regards,
BOB
I love this one:
>I usually think of these forums as a "virtual campfire" and how far off >topic can the campfire talk get at any rally?
Month ago that I had a campfire with the kids and 19 years ago that I had been on a biker's meeting. But in deed this forum helps to remember those times daily and btw helping others with "tips" and "bewares" makes you feel good too.
My yesterdays comment seems to have been lost in cyberspace...
SC's seem to be the only landvehicle that give you the perfect fun of to experiment third dimention liberty. Only flying might be nicer.
Best regards
Sven Peter Pan
Sidecars and trikes are similar in that they both have three wheels. Nonetheless, they should have their own websites, IMHO. There are difrerent websites for all different brands of cars and bikes. The Jaguar club doesn't have a section for Chevys.
I'd just leave it as it is.
My 2 cents.
United SIDECAR Association = USCA
NOT: United Sidecar and Trike Association = USCATA
NOT: United Sidecar and Trike and Birdwathers Association = USCATBA
Let it alone ...
Dan Lund of the VROC forum said it best:
"This is just my opinion, but the biggest difference between a sidecar and a trike is.....
A side car makes you look eccentric and adventurous.
A trike makes you look like a Goldwing retiree times two.
Not meant to offend any trike owners, just how it looks to me."
ME TOO!
And they both started out as motorcycles, which without them their would be no sidecars, or trikes. So do you exclude motorcycles in this fourm, as some would excude trikes?
My $0.2 worth
clawde;I’ve had the pleasure of meeting some very nice folks riding trikes. More often than not slow or no growth in any endeavor (clubs, business, etc.) can be traced back to just plain o’l stupidity. How many of you sidecar guys still ride a two wheeler from time to time?
