Anyone having info, both pro & con on a hybrid type leaner set up? Something like the Armec rigs. Kind of like the idea myself.
I've got a lead on a Motorvation formularll at a decent price that I might get and put on my 83 Yamaha Venture.
Or does your folks think I'd be etter off just attaching the car to this bike solid. The car has mounts already for this bike too. I can fabricate the required hardware to mount a Armec style leaner if I go that route.
I'm a newbie here as well concerning sidecars.
Larry
I guess this isn't done much here in the States. Thus no one having first hand knowledge of the Amrec style rigs. I've commmitted to buying the Mortorvation car and should be picking it up in a couple weeks. Travelling two states away to get it but including the pick up stop in with an already planned trip to the area.
Larry
I think maybe you're talking about the Armec Sidewider? Here's a link . If yes, it's an Armec, not a Amrec. Just sayin maybe that's why nobody replied because they didn't know what you were talking about.
I don't know much about leaners but it seems that most of the ones you see use smallish narrow lightweight sidecars. Can't say I've ever seen a leaner on a big heavy anchor like the Motorvation Formula II.
DRONE - 8/27/2012 12:55 AM
I think maybe you're talking about the Armec Sidewider? Here's a link . If yes, it's an Armec, not a Amrec. Just sayin maybe that's why nobody replied because they didn't know what you were talking about.
I don't know much about leaners but it seems that most of the ones you see use smallish narrow lightweight sidecars. Can't say I've ever seen a leaner on a big heavy anchor like the Motorvation Formula II.
Yep you're right as I did miss-spell the brand name. I'll correct that after this reply. I also noticed that the cars do look to be on the smaller size as well as the bikes themselves. I didn't know if that made a difference or not as I'm new to this topic so am asking from folks here who would have that knowledge maybe. I'll be picking up the Motorvation car within a couple of weeks and will mount it in the conventional manner as it comes with everything needed to attach it to the tug I'll be using, the 83 Venture.
Thanks for responding, Larry
Hi Carbon: I have no experience with leaners ... except for my first sidecar experience about 15 years ago, which was driving a K100RT with a Flex-It sidecar. That was quite an introduction to sidecars.
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Hey guys I installed a Fleximum leaner on my 82 GL 1100 8 weeks ago. These were made in Quebec in the late 90's, it is fun to drive, the kids as well as the dog love riding in the car. As this car leans with the bike and has a high center of gravity I think it would be a handfull for anyone under 200lbs to control, I am a heavyset guy and can throw it around no problem.
I also noticed that the cars do look to be on the smaller size as well as the bikes themselves. I didn't know if that made a difference or not as I'm new to this topic so am asking from folks here who would have that knowledge maybe.
I don't have first-hand experience with leaners, but from what I've read, it seems like the lighter the sidecar, the less it will influence the handling of the bike.
The Formula II looks rather big too, so you'd probably have to make lots of room for the bike to tilt in right-handers, giving you a really wide track.
Plus the venture seems to be a rather low bike. From what I've learned, it's easier to mount the car on a bike with rather high ground clearance, again, giving the bike enough room to tilt AND still having enough clearance after installing the subframe with the mounts.
Andreas - 8/29/2012 8:57 AM
I also noticed that the cars do look to be on the smaller size as well as the bikes themselves. I didn't know if that made a difference or not as I'm new to this topic so am asking from folks here who would have that knowledge maybe.
I don't have first-hand experience with leaners, but from what I've read, it seems like the lighter the sidecar, the less it will influence the handling of the bike.
The Formula II looks rather big too, so you'd probably have to make lots of room for the bike to tilt in right-handers, giving you a really wide track.
Plus the venture seems to be a rather low bike. From what I've learned, it's easier to mount the car on a bike with rather high ground clearance, again, giving the bike enough room to tilt AND still having enough clearance after installing the subframe with the mounts.
Yea that makes a lot of sense. Both on the Formula ll's size and the height of the Venture.
I bought the Leaner ( articulating) sidecar that was listed on this site a couple months ago. It is a friendship I car on a Bmw Oil head. It runs and rides and traccks superbly. It is engineered to turn into the ccurve when the bike leans and feals as if there is no car there at all. Truly amazing. I also have a rigid rig, a terraplane mounted on an 86 Aspencade which I went to colorado with this summer so I have some comparison. I have not been able to compare it this fall completely, but performaance wise the BMW rig is much more like a hot rod than the aspencade. You pays your mooney and you takes your choice. The Aspe is more easy to drive at lower speeds in town, the Bmw leener is lighter at speed in the curves. Its a full size sidecar so that's a horse apiece. I like them both but which one we keep will depend on how my wife feels about climbing into the car. We are both in our eighties, so there are some issues there. But the riding/driving is supurb!
Dan
Bullwinkle - 10/30/2012 8:59 PM
I bought the Leaner ( articulating) sidecar that was listed on this site a couple months ago. It is a friendship I car on a Bmw Oil head. It runs and rides and traccks superbly. It is engineered to turn into the ccurve when the bike leans and feals as if there is no car there at all. Truly amazing. I also have a rigid rig, a terraplane mounted on an 86 Aspencade which I went to colorado with this summer so I have some comparison. I have not been able to compare it this fall completely, but performaance wise the BMW rig is much more like a hot rod than the aspencade. You pays your mooney and you takes your choice. The Aspe is more easy to drive at lower speeds in town, the Bmw leener is lighter at speed in the curves. Its a full size sidecar so that's a horse apiece. I like them both but which one we keep will depend on how my wife feels about climbing into the car. We are both in our eighties, so there are some issues there. But the riding/driving is supurb!
Dan
How great to hear, Dan!
One of my best friends is in his 80's [I'm much younger for what it's worth] and he still rides, just bought a new bike. Hoping all the best to you and your bride, congratulations, and keep those knees in the breeze!!!
80s = WOW = I'm on;y crowding 70 so am feeling like I may have a few years more of riding left!! Good on ya!
