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(@timo482)
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with a hd bike and hd sidecar it says right in the manual that the heaviest passenger has to be in the sidecar....

so you really should never put a adult on the back seat and a kid in the car.... really bad idea.

the car "load" has to be heavier than the rear seat "load"

the gross has to be under 1650 i think

and the rear axle is... 850 or so... and sidecar axle is 300..

in my case [im not tiny] there is no way to have a rear passenger & meet the wts so i removed the seat to remove temptation

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Posted : January 11, 2010 5:09 pm
(@peter-pan)
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Gaylord,
that you never lift the sidecar makes me suspect that you have car tires on a pretty heavy rig.
I have still on my very light weight rig all three wheels with relatively heavy walled bike tires..
On such a set up lifting the sidecar, drifting lefty's or a 180ΒΊ turn on the plate are part of the essential fun.
Just yesterday a small girl of 2 1/2 cheared for more at her first "soft flight" on the parking lot at her granny's shop.
Obviously I'll not do such things in traffic.

hmmm... not toatally correct.
There were occasions I had to do it to save my butt.
And therefore having the practice is important, including part of the exercises I gave to several friends.
Best regards
Sven


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 4:44 am
(@gnm109)
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Peter Pan - 1/12/2010 7:44 AM

Gaylord,
that you never lift the sidecar makes me suspect that you have car tires on a pretty heavy rig.
I have still on my very light weight rig all three wheels with relatively heavy walled bike tires..
On such a set up lifting the sidecar, drifting lefty's or a 180ΒΊ turn on the plate are part of the essential fun.
Just yesterday a small girl of 2 1/2 cheared for more at her first "soft flight" on the parking lot at her granny's shop.
Obviously I'll not do such things in traffic.

hmmm... not toatally correct.
There were occasions I had to do it to save my butt.
And therefore having the practice is important, including part of the exercises I gave to several friends.
Best regards
Sven

I don't lift the wheel because when the wheel lifts on a sidecar, I have little control. I just ride them. I don't do tricks. I've also got a lot of money in the rig and can't afford anymore to replace it. It's going to last a lot longer if I keep the wheels on the ground.

Sure, if it were absolutely necessary to do so, I'm well aware of how to lift the wheel. On the other hand, that will only happen if I'm gonig too fast or doing something that I shouldn't be.

But don't let me stop you. LOL.


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 5:38 am
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gnm109 wrote:
>>Sure, if it were absolutely necessary to do so, I'm well aware of how to lift the wheel. On the other hand, that will only happen if I'm gonig too fast or doing something that I shouldn't be. <<<

Or maybe if someone else did something they shoudl not do and
YOU had to do something you ordinarily would not do to avoid them πŸ™‚


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 10:58 am
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claude #3563 - 1/12/2010 1:58 PM

gnm109 wrote:
>>Sure, if it were absolutely necessary to do so, I'm well aware of how to lift the wheel. On the other hand, that will only happen if I'm gonig too fast or doing something that I shouldn't be. <<<

Or maybe if someone else did something they shoudl not do and
YOU had to do something you ordinarily would not do to avoid them πŸ™‚

You do not have a lot of control when the wheel is in the air. If someone does a bad move, I can avoid it to the best of my ability. You have limited options, however. To the extent that you need to lift a wheel to avoid a bad situation, fine. Doing it for fun is not smart.


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 1:26 pm
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I plan on keeping all wheels on the ground. Good info to know on these things.


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 3:27 pm
(@Bob-Hunt)
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Hey Bagmaster, lets get that thing going, the weathers warming up the next couple of days.


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 4:44 pm
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Bob Hunt - 1/12/2010 9:44 PM Hey Bagmaster, lets get that thing going, the weathers warming up the next couple of days.

Hey Bob, you got a cheap machinist with his own shop up that way that can fix me a mount part? I haven't checked locally yet. I want to get this thing hooked up and dialed in before spring gets here. Need a lot of practice.


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 4:56 pm
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Ya know, i wonder if anyone has ever converted a GL1100 to 2-wheel drive on the rear? Would be a hoot!


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 4:58 pm
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i wonder if anyone has ever converted a GL1100 to 2-wheel drive on the rear?
Yeah that seems simple enough. Must be lots of them out there.

??
Lonnie


 
Posted : January 12, 2010 7:03 pm
(@Bob-Hunt)
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I haven't run across a "Cheap" machine shop nearby.


 
Posted : January 13, 2010 4:06 am
(@timo482)
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im cheap

but im not nearby

and my cheap - is probably not what you think is cheap

*sigh*

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Posted : January 13, 2010 4:28 am
(@peter-pan)
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And my beeing cheap for the clients gets expensive to my wallet.
In that way that the best off all wife's tells it would be better to close the machine shop completely...
"If you want to be a missioneer go to Africa!"

The german way is make things once, but right and with good materials.
With the result that clients often become afraid, go elsewhere and frecuently come back from there pretty disapointed, when the other shops screwed up the baby.

Essence: The term "cheap" can have a lot of meanings. Sadly often the price is not as cheap as expected, but the quality often is really cheap.....
As we say:
"Lo barato sale caro!" = " The cheap turns out to become expensive!"

Therefor I recommend with design / sidecar mounts / children safety wear get advice and jobs done from the profesionals with experience and the right attitude.
Safety first.

Enjoy winter tinkering
Sven


 
Posted : January 13, 2010 4:49 am
(@timo482)
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ive pretty much settled on "not cheap"

all my customers have seen stuff ive made last and last and last....

so ill give them a list of options...

cheap, last but not look good, & last and look good...

they almost always choose the latter when i give them the facts up front

of course im on a project now where they were worried about "total cost" so i gave them a budget based on data they had.....

when i went to pick up the item to be worked on - they added 26 more parts to bead blast, fix, repair, paint, and install - "extra while im at it"

cant beat that.

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Posted : January 13, 2010 5:02 am
(@peter-pan)
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Tim, enjoy the occasion when your client supports you and gives a nice budget.
At this moment I am trying to make miracles in automating a manual CIP system where we found a whole bunch of beauties in a "used stuff" container...
Unlikely the budget is extremely tight.
Best wishes for your project.
Sven


 
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