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(@dmcland)
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All,
I have built several sidecars and all of them have had suspension. Be it a coil over/shock and tower or airbag.

Background Info: I have seen many photos of sidecars with out suspension. The sidecar's wheel/axle is connected to the
sidecar frame. The body of the sidecar is on springs/rubber mounts/airbags.

My question is this. What does a sidecar suspension bring to the table?
Does it improve handling or stability?

Why is it needed? I have seen Harley's and others up through the years from 1900-2000 without suspension

thoughts and feedback welcome.

thank you


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 7:35 am
(@davet)
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I only have experience with my Harley sidecar. Any time you hit a bump with the sidecar wheel, there is input to the bike. The ride is especially affected on bad roads. Both handling and stability will be improved with a suspension. The only reason not to have a suspension would be if you have a Harley or an antique side car you want to keep original. If you're building something new, put some kind of suspension on the wheel.


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 1:58 am
(@dmcland)
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Thank you, my experience has only been with sidecars/hacks I have built. All with of them with suspension.
I have never ridden a bike/sidecar combo other than what I have built. So I have no frame of reference with a fixed sidecar suspension.

That said, I am attempting to replicate a 1929 Harley/Indian Sidecar and its suspension is/was fixed.
This will be mounted to a 07 1200 Sportster.

Since, I am in the design stage. I believe I will consider your advice.

thank you

DRM


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 3:37 am
(@Hack__n)
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As an example: The Liberty sidecar duplicates the Harley in appearance but rides like a dream with coil over shock suspension and sprung body. Whereas the rigid mounted chassis Harley car rides like a Stagecoach.
No feedback through the bars when you hit a rough spot with the Liberty car (and others with full suspension).

Lonnie


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 5:03 am
(@dmcland)
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Interesting, I wonder if I could use a leaf spring and shock as the suspension to give it the aged look? Northerntool has trailer spring shocks and shackles.

I would think the 500lb spring would work nicely

thoughts?


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 6:38 am
(@Hack__n)
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I've used the 250# torsional suspension on sidecars.
Remember, half of the sidecar weight is on the bike.

Lonnie
NWSC


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 11:29 am
(@dmcland)
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Great, thank you,
I wish I had found this side before my first build,

But then again, I have enjoyed the process 🙂

DRM

PS. Complete the side templates and bottom templates,
Tomorrow I cut steel


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 11:31 am
 46u
(@46u)
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What I like about my Harley sidecar is no matter how much weight you put in it I never have to change the set up as it drives the same loaded as it does unloaded. I have had many ride in it and all said it road great even on rough dirt roads.


 
Posted : April 19, 2015 6:33 am
(@dmcland)
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That is the why one of my first builds I purchased an air shock kit for an older corvette. The bolt patter was the same and the distance of travel was around 12 inches. I was able to adjust the ride and or height by adding or releasing air.

🙂


 
Posted : April 20, 2015 5:36 am