I'm in the process of putting a 2002 TLE sidecar on my 2003 Road King and I keep reading here about rear master cylinder change overs.
My question is why do you have to change master cylinders, why won't the stock cylinder work??
thanks in advance.
because the reservour wont clear the mounts and the sidecar frame - they touch - and when you go over large bumps or hard corners the frame flexes a bit right where the cyl is - so if you cram it in there you will regret it later.
the cyl is not changed its the rez - its replaced with a fxr style one. read the fine manual
you also must change the pedal on some years - but i "think" a 2003 will be ok. you really need to get the manual and check it all out for certain.
you also need to move the oil pressure sender as it wont clear the mounts
and you need to add a t in the rear brake line
and change the saddle bag latch
THEN you are ready to install the mounts - oh and you will have to remove the entire exhaust system to get all those parts on - sorry but there isnt any other way.. *sigh*
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What TIMO482 said. It's a lot of work to make that changeover. You really should get the sidecar book from HD.
OK, thanks for the info. I thought it may of had to do with cylinder size but everything is ok on this end anyway because I'm a handicapped rider and I'm moving the master cylinder to the left side of the bike where I've made a mounting plate coming off the primary chain inspection plate and running a 14" extended brake lever for leverage to be able to apply the brakes, because I don't have enough strength to use a normal brake pedal.
I'm an incomplete quadrapledgic with a litte movement in my left foot and I can't use a right hand brake because my right hand doesn't work and neither does my right foot so that's the reason for a left foot brake.
Originally written by maddogvic on 10/27/2007 2:46 PM
OK, thanks for the info. I thought it may of had to do with cylinder size but everything is ok on this end anyway because I'm a handicapped rider and I'm moving the master cylinder to the left side of the bike where I've made a mounting plate coming off the primary chain inspection plate and running a 14" extended brake lever for leverage to be able to apply the brakes, because I don't have enough strength to use a normal brake pedal.
I'm an incomplete quadrapledgic with a litte movement in my left foot and I can't use a right hand brake because my right hand doesn't work and neither does my right foot so that's the reason for a left foot brake.
Good for you! I admire a person such as yourself who adapts a bike to his needs. Have you looked into an electric shift such as made by Klicktronic or Pingel?
Good luck!
hi gnm 109, I see your in Sac not to far from me, sure would like to know about any and all side car events in our area.
yep, I'm will using a pingle, works great, and I have the champion reverse and monday I will be ordering the 4 1/2 degree triple tree from champion for easier steering since I have to do most of the work with my left hand, I have my throttle grip covered in velcro needles and have the velcro loops glued to my glove so I can keep my right hand on the bars and when I bend my arm down it turns my throtle. Left hand turns are easy enough because I can pull with my left hand and push with the right, it's when I make right handers, if I try to pull with my right hand it pulls loose from the velcro so I basically have to manuver with left hand only and tha'ts a little tough for me to do, so I'm hoping the EZ-Steer will make it at least 50% easier, if not it's going to be rough, but I'll manage some how, I joined my 1st bike club in 1960 in the s.f. bay area and have been riding ever since, I don't like cages.
Originally written by maddogvic on 10/28/2007 5:41 PM
hi gnm 109, I see your in Sac not to far from me, sure would like to know about any and all side car events in our area.
yep, I'm will using a pingle, works great, and I have the champion reverse and monday I will be ordering the 4 1/2 degree triple tree from champion for easier steering since I have to do most of the work with my left hand, I have my throttle grip covered in velcro needles and have the velcro loops glued to my glove so I can keep my right hand on the bars and when I bend my arm down it turns my throtle. Left hand turns are easy enough because I can pull with my left hand and push with the right, it's when I make right handers, if I try to pull with my right hand it pulls loose from the velcro so I basically have to manuver with left hand only and tha'ts a little tough for me to do, so I'm hoping the EZ-Steer will make it at least 50% easier, if not it's going to be rough, but I'll manage some how, I joined my 1st bike club in 1960 in the s.f. bay area and have been riding ever since, I don't like cages.
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There have been a couple of race car drivers over the years who lost use of one of their their hands. One of these continued to drive by using a ball and socket swivel arrangement that allowed him to 'plug into' the steering wheel so to speak. Dunno if something like this could be made to work in lieu of the velocro or not.It would have to be secure of course but still probably should be capable of breaking away in case of an incident.
Food for thought anyhow.
Originally written by maddogvic on 10/28/2007 2:41 PM
hi gnm 109, I see your in Sac not to far from me, sure would like to know about any and all side car events in our area.
yep, I'm will using a pingle, works great, and I have the champion reverse and monday I will be ordering the 4 1/2 degree triple tree from champion for easier steering since I have to do most of the work with my left hand, I have my throttle grip covered in velcro needles and have the velcro loops glued to my glove so I can keep my right hand on the bars and when I bend my arm down it turns my throtle. Left hand turns are easy enough because I can pull with my left hand and push with the right, it's when I make right handers, if I try to pull with my right hand it pulls loose from the velcro so I basically have to manuver with left hand only and tha'ts a little tough for me to do, so I'm hoping the EZ-Steer will make it at least 50% easier, if not it's going to be rough, but I'll manage some how, I joined my 1st bike club in 1960 in the s.f. bay area and have been riding ever since, I don't like cages.
It sounds like you really know what you are doing!
With my bum left leg, I've often thought about getting either a Kilcktronic or Pingel electric shift.
I was wondering, can you locate neutral with the Pingel? Are there any problems witth it? My 2004 Ultra shifts OK but it seems like it takes a lot of pressure to shift. I wonder if you have any problems. The 2002 transmission is the same as a 2004 as far as I know.
Regards.
to gnm 109
I have both the klicktronic is on a custom evo trike and I installed the ping on the hack.
you can't tickle the ping to find neutral but you can on the klick.
In my opinion the pingel is the better of the 2, a lot eaiser to set up than the klick.
I will send you my phone number to your private email, call me.
Vic
I'm a complete paraplegic with a 04 Road King Custom and a TLE. I spent a bunch of time wondering how to operate the rear brake/ sidecar brake. In the end I just don't! I've put just over 5000 miles on the rig and have done all stopping with dual disk on the front wheel an never once did I feel the braking was inadequate. Even is the several panic stop situations I got myself into.
I forgot mention I did add stainless braided brake lines which greatly improved the feel.
Maddogvic,
Please disregard my posts. I am such a dolt as I did not realize you don't have the use of your right hand.
If you are ever in the Bay Area drop in!
Originally written by Kirk on 10/30/2007 2:05 PM
I'm a complete paraplegic with a 04 Road King Custom and a TLE. I spent a bunch of time wondering how to operate the rear brake/ sidecar brake. In the end I just don't! I've put just over 5000 miles on the rig and have done all stopping with dual disk on the front wheel an never once did I feel the braking was inadequate. Even is the several panic stop situations I got myself into.
It's true that you can do rather well on your rig without the use of the rear brake. My riding style is rather slow and sedate so I seldom use the rear brake unless I want to test it snd make sure that it still works.
For most stops, I rely on trailing throttle, some gearing down for engine brake and finish off with a touch of the big dual front calipers. The later ones with dual pistons stop quite well.
Originally written by Kirk on 10/30/2007 2:05 PM
I'm a complete paraplegic with a 04 Road King Custom and a TLE. I spent a bunch of time wondering how to operate the rear brake/ sidecar brake. In the end I just don't! I've put just over 5000 miles on the rig and have done all stopping with dual disk on the front wheel an never once did I feel the braking was inadequate. Even is the several panic stop situations I got myself into.
Hi Kirk;
I've met a few para's that have ran front and rear brakes off of the right hand brake, you can buy a 3 way tee fitting that comes with an ajustable restriction flow to the front as to where most of the stopping power is to the rear so as not to have to worry about making an emergency stop in a curve possibly causing your bars to cross over into the turn.
