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(@Sidcar)
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Hi,
I was looking through my collection of sidecar pictures for a photo of s WD Norton for another post on this website when I came across the attached. The sidecar is (unless you know of an older one) the oldest known sidecar.
It was made in 1903, by a company called Grahom Brothers, and they sold it as the "Liberty Social Attachment" ("Social attachment" a good way to describe a sidecar).
The bike it's hitched to is a 1907 Vindec, the bloke sitting on the bike is the owner and the scruff in the natty waistcoat sitting in the sidecar is yours truly. I'd just been given a ride round the field and have to say it was quite comfortable.
Whether I'd feel comfortable going down a steep hill in the rain with nothing but a rim brake to slow the plot down is another matter.

Sid

Hopefully there are three pictures attached. If not they'll be along shortly

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Posted : February 15, 2015 11:44 pm
(@Anonymous)
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That is cool!! Thank you for posting the pics!!


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 5:51 am
(@peter-pan)
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In fact in 1988 in the German Oldtimer Markt, there was an add for the sale of a British bike with a willow sidecar from 1903. There must be still older ones out in the barns and museums.
Sidecars must have been mounted to motorcycles since at least 1898 in France as I can recall another article from the Oldtimer Markt.
Sven


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 8:04 am
(@Phelonius)
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Those tiller type handlebars look scary.


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 12:41 pm
(@Sidcar)
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This one's not as old but it is attached to a Harley.

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Posted : February 16, 2015 1:42 pm
(@jkmolt)
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Really great to see this old rigs. Hope we see more of them.


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 2:52 pm
(@peter-pan)
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Might it be that for the first one somebody recycled his wheel chair?.
Look for the rear handles.
Or somebody was already thinking in skate boarders...
Back to the future.


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 2:57 pm
(@Phelonius)
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Wicker chairs were common on hacks back then because of light weight.


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 4:47 pm
(@peter-pan)
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No Jim, because of the easy way to empty the chair...
Break hard, take off for a free flight...
and... the next passenger can enter right away.
Sven


 
Posted : February 16, 2015 6:14 pm
(@Johnny-Sweet)
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Peter Pan - 2/16/2015 11:14 PM No Jim, because of the easy way to empty the chair... Break hard, take off for a free flight... and... the next passenger can enter right away. Sven

Unless you over compensate and then this could have happened.

At that time in history they still hadn't figured out to lead the sidecar wheel.

 photo zsidecarcrash_zpscb4fb2f8.jpg


 
Posted : February 17, 2015 4:26 am
(@Sidcar)
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They hadn't got around to fitting working brakes either, braking hard was using both feet.

Sid


 
Posted : February 17, 2015 2:20 pm