I recently purchased a 94goldwing with a double sidecar attatched . I noticed a crack in the frame when I removed the seat. On further investegation I found that the bike frame was cracked at every attatchment point. The side car frame as well is cracked at attatch points. The question I have is, is it repairable?? Did honda have attach points for sidecars.
Thanks
Mark
Ifeel sick
Hi Mark sad to hear. Any photos of the cracks as i also own a 1500 with a double sidecar. Should be able to get them welded and made stronger . I dont envy your job of stripping the bike and sidecar down for welding.
Originally written by mark stevens2 on 2/11/2008 12:02 AM
I recently purchased a 94goldwing with a double sidecar attatched . I noticed a crack in the frame when I removed the seat. On further investegation I found that the bike frame was cracked at every attatchment point. The side car frame as well is cracked at attatch points. The question I have is, is it repairable?? Did honda have attach points for sidecars.
Thanks
Mark
Ifeel sick
Honda never officially blessed mounting sidecars. Anything that was done would have been done aftermarket.
Yes, it can all be welded and repaired. Was there an actual subframe on the bike? Or was it just clamped on wherever the previous owner could find a spot? Here's a picture of a typical subframe. http://tinyurl.com/2xmxjg
Too many people try to do it on the cheap and end up with damaged frames and poor handling rigs. Not saying you need a subframe for everything, but you definitely do on a 94 Goldwing.
Do you know what brand of sidecar you have?
Thanks Guys
There is no subframe just welded to original frame. The sidecar is a Premier which was a company that exists out here in Australia, the original owner has sold the company. (Sidecar was fitted by them)
I had sent the outfit back to the honda dealer that had done the roadworthy (dont know what you call it) and they have said they will fix it up and strengthen at their cost. Wonderfull bunch of people. You dont know how relieved I am.Will try to put some pix in an album if I can work out how to do it.
Mark
Wow,
I've never heard of a sidecar attached to a late GL by welding. Sounds like a formula for failure from square one.
Good Luck,
Lonnie
Northwest Sidecars
when I get it back thinking of knocking up a subfrme for it. Would appreciate your thoughts
Take a look at the link I posted above. http://tinyurl.com/2xmxjg I don't have a wing so I can't tell you where each piece attaches, but someone here could. Maybe save the photos to use as a pattern.
scrap that frame ASAP!
Get a new one and mount a beefy subframe.
Only way to stay allive!
Just 2 cent from the other end of the pacific
Sven Peter Pan
Costa Rica
I have a 95 goldwing with a CALIFORNIA fredom 111 side car, you can buy the mounting brackets from them and make them work on your car, I have seen one Goldwing with the mounts welded to the frsme and it was junk if you are going to have someone weld this for you make sure they know what they are doing are you might end up hurt are worst. Please be careful!!!
Jim
Originally written by Peter Pan on 2/13/2008 11:12 AM
scrap that frame ASAP!
Get a new one and mount a beefy subframe.
Only way to stay allive!
Just 2 cent from the other end of the pacificSven Peter Pan
Costa Rica
Ya know Sven, I was reading thru this post and thinking the same thing you just said. Me, I wouldn't trust it. MY shorts would be in a knot, a giant wedgie, every time I got on the bike and to be pulling that weight....Nah, not me. SORRY!!! I mean, I've totaled a couple bikes that had slight frame damage, nothing broken or cracked, and were totaled for safety reasons.
I don't think I could weld in enough gussets to make it feel safe to me. I'm sure you can find a NEW frame.
o~o
The frame is the most important part of the bike and in Germany ANY after sales welding on a motorcycle frame is forbidden. After 19 years in industrial maintanence and after haveing rebuilt from scrap 1 Willies and one NSU-Supermax and seeing just few thousand km later the same just welded cracks again I agree with german TÜV. Motorcycle frames are made out of special materials not some cheepy boilerplate and there are only very few welding specialists out there who will know exactly how to do the job right...And they will not do it for safety reasons.
Most guys are just some back yard want to be profesionals.
Sorry collegues, but anybody who welds on a precision machine or motorcycle frame is suspicous to me...because I have seen too many spoiled machines.
To get a frame from some scrap bike is not too dificult. Then the subframe you can make yourself without danger, because there you know the material.
Regards
Sven Peter
Hi Mark.
This is the company that fitted my sidecar last year . Nice people. Very very helpfull they have fitted a lot of side cars might pay to give them a ring and have a chat just to ease your mind. Jim or Terry (08) 8725 0044 or
highwaymech@icisp.net.au
Cheers Ian
Hi Mark thanks for the photos looks nasty Telstra has been giving me a hard time only just recived your pics. How did you get on with welding them up?.
