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(@Markh00)
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46u - 7/18/2013 8:45 PM

Markh00 - 7/18/2013 10:11 PM

I'm to close to retirement to spend $1000 when I can get the same for less than $500 from the manufacturer of the motorcycle, plus I get steel instead of aluminum.

You better check the prices before you buy as those prices are WAY old. HD parts go up daily. I bet if you get it all you will be around the first link I posted which you can get those tree kits four around $730 at the right place.

UP date the retail for the top bottom trees and skirt is $499.97. At places like Lake Shore you can save some. Let us know how it turns out and what your bottom line is.

Those prices were good when I made my purchase in Janurary 2013 over the Internet at the dealer listed on the sheet. They discount the HD price.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 12:46 am
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Markh00 - 7/19/2013 6:46 AM

46u - 7/18/2013 8:45 PM

Markh00 - 7/18/2013 10:11 PM

I'm to close to retirement to spend $1000 when I can get the same for less than $500 from the manufacturer of the motorcycle, plus I get steel instead of aluminum.

You better check the prices before you buy as those prices are WAY old. HD parts go up daily. I bet if you get it all you will be around the first link I posted which you can get those tree kits four around $730 at the right place.

UP date the retail for the top bottom trees and skirt is $499.97. At places like Lake Shore you can save some. Let us know how it turns out and what your bottom line is.

Those prices were good when I made my purchase in Janurary 2013 over the Internet at the dealer listed on the sheet. They discount the HD price.

As I posted you can get better prices at places like Lake Shore Harley. They give 20% of retail.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 3:09 am
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Thanks for all the responses. I am looking at the HD change out and also maybe Liberty Trees? Gonna mostly depend on pricing and function, etc. I also want to change out the handlebars when I do this project. I am not going to do anything until winter this year, but it's absolutely getting done. I will post information once I do it and what I have decided to do. Thanks again for any and all suggestions, I appreciate them all.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 3:16 am
 46u
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Until July 28th Lake Shore has free shipping on orders of $250 of more till July 28th.
http://www.lshd1.com/servlet/Categories

When I can afford it I am going to get the HHI for $730 and if need be machine a whole new spacer for the one side,

If any one finds a tree kit that works with out any machining on 02-05 with fairings please let me know.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 3:38 am
 46u
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Keep in mind I am not making money by taking my time to help like some I am just trying to help. If you look at the picture this is the left leg tube for fairing models. The rod from the damper screws into the cap #3 so when you replace it with the spacers in a tree kit there is no place to screw the damper rod. Unless someone knows of a kit that will accept this set up you will have to change or make something. Please if you know of someone that makes a kit for 02-05 fairing models please let me know.

Sorry for the wore manual but being I work on Harley s a lot in the past 42 years none stop all my manuals are like this.

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I know this is off topic but here is a little something I made for doing twin cam pressed cranks. Been doing 99 and earlier for years but just getting in to pressed cranks. This if for those that have any dough about my qualifications.
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Posted : July 19, 2013 4:08 am
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I just talked to Steve at HHI and he asked his boss and their trees will work with the 02-05 fairing forks. There is a place in AL, called Adventure trikes that sells the HHI tree kit with spacers for around $730 I think shipped.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 4:54 am
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46u - 7/19/2013 8:38 AM

If any one finds a tree kit that works with out any machining on 02-05 with fairings please let me know.

Liberty Tripple Trees might work here. I have been inquiring with them about their product and through the conversations nothing has been mentioned about anything more than direct bolt on with theirs.??

Again, I am looking at several options before I decide, but this will be a winter project for me.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 7:42 am
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freaky - 7/19/2013 1:42 PM

46u - 7/19/2013 8:38 AM

If any one finds a tree kit that works with out any machining on 02-05 with fairings please let me know.

Liberty Tripple Trees might work here. I have been inquiring with them about their product and through the conversations nothing has been mentioned about anything more than direct bolt on with theirs.??

Again, I am looking at several options before I decide, but this will be a winter project for me.

You most have missed my post where I called HHI and they said they will work for 02-05 fairing front ends. From a place in AL you can get the kit for around $735 shipped. You can all so get them off eBay but the list the rake in a funny way so be careful if you do it on eBay. They are around $735 shipped. HHI makes them in several different degrees and if I am not mistaken we want plus 3 degrees.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 7:56 am
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Just an FYI: The item circled in the shop manual picture shown in one of the earlier posts will not need to be removed or replaced when TriGlide trees are installed on an 2005 ElectraGlide. You don't take it off the right fork. You don't take it off the left fork. Both fork legs slide out of the upper tree. If you use the spacers shown in the drawings above which are available at McMaster Carr (or if you have a machine shop make them, or you make your own on your lathe) they and the fork legs slip into the upper tree.
The damper cartridge rod does NOT thread into the fork tube plug. The rod threads into a nut above the spring seat. I don't know about earlier models but on an 2005 that's the way they were built.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 2:03 pm
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Markh00 - 7/19/2013 8:03 PM

Just an FYI: The item circled in the shop manual picture shown in one of the earlier posts will not need to be removed or replaced when TriGlide trees are installed on an 2005 ElectraGlide. You don't take it off the right fork. You don't take it off the left fork. Both fork legs slide out of the upper tree. If you use the spacers shown in the drawings above which are available at McMaster Carr (or if you have a machine shop make them, or you make your own on your lathe) they and the fork legs slip into the upper tree.
The damper cartridge rod does NOT thread into the fork tube plug. The rod threads into a nut above the spring seat. I don't know about earlier models but on an 2005 that's the way they were built.

I Assure you the top cap circled does screw in to the top plug on all 02 to 05 the nut you are talking about is a jam nut to keep it from coming unscrewed while in use. Look in a 05 parts manual and you will see all parts have a -02 number which means it was first used in 02. Look the part numbers up and you will see.

I have a copy of the same thing you posted from the original poster and designer in 2012. I never said in any of my listing talking about the plug on the tri glide set up it was always about the tree kits. There is reasons I personally do not the tri glide set up but if you are happy with it that is all that matters.

But if you do the research you will see the top plug does indeed screw on to the damper rod.


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 4:31 pm
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You are correct, I am wrong, the damper rod does thread into the plug. I think I see why the after-market would build their spacer to work as the extension (or spacer) and the plug. That's the OEM design. That fork plug is fastened to both the upper tree and the fork tube. So they made the plug longer to act as both. I think that's why they invented the lathe!


 
Posted : July 19, 2013 5:00 pm
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Following up all this, here is some more info that I have found:
Liberty makes a unit that is a +5 degree rake and they recommend that you remove the factory damper that connects the frame of the bike to the frame of the car.
Lehman makes a unit that is also +5 and they dont recommend removing that factory damper.
HHI use to call their unit a +5 degree and after several conversations with Steve, I have found that they changed their part # to fit my bike (03 Ultra) and the new part # is: 41FLXR9 trees and per Steve at HHI, they are an actual 9 degree tree, because the factory touring trees are set at +4 and their +5 (as they use to call them), is in reality 9 degrees. That is what HHI recommends for my ride. They also never mentioned removal of the damper.

I like the pricing on the HHI's best so far and am continuing to look and research.
In the previous post it was mentioned that these HHI's can be had for low $700..Do you know if that was the "raw" finish or the "black powder coated" finish?

Thanks again everyone for any/all input and I will continue to keep this post updated as I find out new info and get this job completed.


 
Posted : July 31, 2013 4:01 am
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I just installed 5 degree triple trees from DMC on my Sportster and couldn't be happier with them, its like installing power steering. I'm sure Jay at DMC would be able to answer your questions.


 
Posted : July 31, 2013 3:48 pm
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