Originally written by Hack'n on 1/16/2009 12:42 PM
We lived in Portland when Reed College was the epitomy of liberal and Governer Hatfield out Gored fat AL for fooling the public before moving east and further f****ng things up in general.
Lonnie
Yes, its been an interesting 5 years here in Portland Oregon. I'm open to all sorts of views, but many of the folks out here are not content on just sharing their opinion. They get upset if you don't conform and adopt their same way of thinking.
But, to each their own I suppose. I'm all about balance. Too much of any one thing is bad. I don't want Exxon dumping oil all over Alaska's shores, but I don't think we need halt all technological advancement or start living in "tree houses" either.
Many folks up here have just lost any sense of balance. Thankfully, the epidemic is mostly contained to Portland city proper. I goto school downtown, but actually live in a rural area about 45 miles away and folks are pretty down to earth.
C'est la vie.
Lonnie wrote:
The glass bulbs were to be thrown at the base of the fire. Ideally the thin bulb would break and spread the carbon tet to suffocate the fire.
The "environmentalists" efforts have caused the banning of very many useful products at great cost to humanity when a bit of common sense control would have them still available to benefit mankind.
For instance DDT: Overt prolonged widespread use caused a huge decimation of some species of wildlife so it was banned (like lead shot). Controlled usage of DDT today would save millions of human lives lost in Africa from malaria.
As with most things like asbestos, carbon tetrachloride, tetraethyl lead, 24D, etc, prudent usage and moderation would be a better answer than abolition.
Lonnie
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Sorry Lonnie, on this one I agree only 50/50 with you.
There are quite a few things I am not happy with the "greens" neither (example: abolishment of lead solder in industrial electronics, now you nearly cannot resolder electronic boards (0,3% of German lead consumption, while the hunters can spread 5% still in the woods)
I applaude sewage water treatment plants and energy saving by far.
But the case of a neffew with cruppled feet, because of a brother in law contaminated by a nematocide that to that time was already forbidden in US at a "Chiquita"-banana plantation, makes me think that there in deed are quite a few things where the people have to be protected from their own stupidity.
But for heavens sake: No wife, Doctor or law maker should protect me from "dangerous sidecar driving".
Have a nice winter.
Here the summer was inaugurated by a bad earth quake on 9th january (6,2º Richter) that destroyed one of the nicest mountain passes in the country.
Sven Peter from Costa Rica.
Uh...gee...thanks a lot Lonnie. Wonder if ALGORE has taken his fuel sucking private jet south for the winter to get away from all the global warming going on here this year. Of course we need to appreciate ALGORE for his 'inventing the internet' so all of us guys can get on here and discuss things right?
"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made" ALGORE.
Originally written by claude #3563 on 1/17/2009 1:38 PM
Uh...gee...thanks a lot Lonnie. Wonder if ALGORE has taken his fuel sucking private jet south for the winter to get away from all the global warming going on here this year. Of course we need to appreciate ALGORE for his 'inventing the internet' so all of us guys can get on here and discuss things right?
"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made" ALGORE.
As you say, Al Gore has a private jet. I understand that such a machine can put out 800 lbs of CO2 per hour. My little MIG welder is used with CO2. It uses 20 lbs. every 6 months or so if I use it intermitteltly. Do you suppose I'll have to quit welding to help the environment or could Al Gore possibly take a couple fewer trips in his airplane?
Since you mentioned Global warming, Al Gore shouldn't try to talk about that right now in the Midwest and Eastern states. They might laugh at him.
My terrier knows as much about global warming as Al Gore does.
at 6am the global warming here was -19. won't be complaining about the heat at RON DEE VOO.
fly
Along with the -19 degrees of global warming the other morning, I also had 6 inches of partly cloudy on the ground. Go figure.
The other day here is was -35c or -31f with the wind chill!
Damn cold!
Sorry friends to be envidious on you about the ice:
"We have it chilly! +12ºC and horizontal rain!"
The earthquake area with the soft soil gets wet now, so soon we will have even more land slides...
Sven from Costa Rica
Originally written by gnm109 on 1/17/2009 7:03 PM
Originally written by claude #3563 on 1/17/2009 1:38 PM
Uh...gee...thanks a lot Lonnie. Wonder if ALGORE has taken his fuel sucking private jet south for the winter to get away from all the global warming going on here this year. Of course we need to appreciate ALGORE for his 'inventing the internet' so all of us guys can get on here and discuss things right?
"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made" ALGORE.As you say, Al Gore has a private jet. I understand that such a machine can put out 800 lbs of CO2 per hour. My little MIG welder is used with CO2. It uses 20 lbs. every 6 months or so if I use it intermitteltly. Do you suppose I'll have to quit welding to help the environment or could Al Gore possibly take a couple fewer trips in his airplane?
Since you mentioned Global warming, Al Gore shouldn't try to talk about that right now in the Midwest and Eastern states. They might laugh at him.
My terrier knows as much about global warming as Al Gore does.
Global warming is coming to Pa. tomorrow. I hear is is susposed to go up into the near mid fourties F. I think I will still laugh at ALGORE or maybe cry..dunno. Where can one get tar anyhow? We can get feathers around here pretty easily.
Originally written by claude #3563 on 1/22/2009 10:01 AM
Global warming is coming to Pa. tomorrow. I hear is is susposed to go up into the near mid fourties F. I think I will still laugh at ALGORE or maybe cry..dunno. Where can one get tar anyhow? We can get feathers around here pretty easily.
We have it today. Forecast is 31ºF, but it's only 12 now. Of course, Saturday's forecast calls for a high of 8ºF. Enjoy it while you can.
Originally written by SidecarMike on 1/22/2009 9:15 AM
Originally written by claude #3563 on 1/22/2009 10:01 AM
Global warming is coming to Pa. tomorrow. I hear is is susposed to go up into the near mid fourties F. I think I will still laugh at ALGORE or maybe cry..dunno. Where can one get tar anyhow? We can get feathers around here pretty easily.
We have it today. Forecast is 31ºF, but it's only 12 now. Of course, Saturday's forecast calls for a high of 8ºF. Enjoy it while you can.
I guess everyone's got to be somewhere. I understand that there are family and employment issues that keep people in the area where they were born. That said, I was born in Chicago and I left the first chance I got, mainly due to the weather. I left for California the month I graduated from high school and haven't looked back.
Like other states in the same belt, Chicago gets terribly cold. The cold plus the wind blowing in from the lake can make life truly miserable. I just got tired of it.
God bless all those who live in cold areas.
GNM109 wrote:
>>I understand that there are family and employment issues that keep people in the area where they were born.<<
But I was born in Florida and moved to Pennsylvania in '81 or so...oh well always have been a little backwards 🙂
Originally written by gnm109 on 1/22/2009 12:28 PM
Originally written by SidecarMike on 1/22/2009 9:15 AM
Originally written by claude #3563 on 1/22/2009 10:01 AM
Global warming is coming to Pa. tomorrow. I hear is is susposed to go up into the near mid fourties F. I think I will still laugh at ALGORE or maybe cry..dunno. Where can one get tar anyhow? We can get feathers around here pretty easily.
We have it today. Forecast is 31ºF, but it's only 12 now. Of course, Saturday's forecast calls for a high of 8ºF. Enjoy it while you can.
I guess everyone's got to be somewhere. I understand that there are family and employment issues that keep people in the area where they were born. That said, I was born in Chicago and I left the first chance I got, mainly due to the weather. I left for California the month I graduated from high school and haven't looked back.
Like other states in the same belt, Chicago gets terribly cold. The cold plus the wind blowing in from the lake can make life truly miserable. I just got tired of it.
God bless all those who live in cold areas.
I grew up on top of a bluff overlooking that same lake. While I agree it can be brutal in winter, I'd give anything for the chance to once again sit at my bedroom window and watch the ships on their way south to Milwaukee and Chicago.
And to paddle a home made ten foot kayak out so far I couldn't see the shore and fish all day in the sun.
I read this entire post, and i thought i would learn a lesson about the need for a fire-extinguisher on the sidecar...at first i thought....that is not a bad idea.....of course this turned-into a blast on politics and an idea that normal winter cycles are an excuse to dismiss the validity of the global warming issue as a hoax. I'm still baffled by the extreme loss of ice-mass in the 2 poles; and i agree that here in michigan being up-to-your-ass in snow is not fun. However----there has been more than one sunrise this winter that has lit the snowscape in a way that makes you feel very close to our Maker...they have been incredible. The idea of a dessert enviroment where the annual low hits 55 degrees at night is not everyone's cup-of-tea.
Leo
Originally written by sidecarLeo on 2/1/2009 6:10 AM
I read this entire post, and i thought i would learn a lesson about the need for a fire-extinguisher on the sidecar...at first i thought....that is not a bad idea.....of course this turned-into a blast on politics and an idea that normal winter cycles are an excuse to dismiss the validity of the global warming issue as a hoax. I'm still baffled by the extreme loss of ice-mass in the 2 poles; and i agree that here in michigan being up-to-your-ass in snow is not fun. However----there has been more than one sunrise this winter that has lit the snowscape in a way that makes you feel very close to our Maker...they have been incredible. The idea of a dessert enviroment where the annual low hits 55 degrees at night is not everyone's cup-of-tea.
Leo
I live in California. Being away from the snow makes me feel closer to my maker.
Global warming has indeed become a political matter. If only someone other than Al Gore had become the spokesman, the concept might have more universal appeal. He doesn't seem to be too committed to the concept however. I understand that his private jet puts out more than 800 pounds of CO2 per hour when underway.
As to the validity of global warming. It may well be happening. Personally though, given the known age of the earth and solar system, I would prefer a slightly longer test period, say at least 100 million years.
But I do agree, a fire extinguisher is a good idea on a sidecar.
