Yea but I have no wish to go there again. 2 1/2 years was enough. There is some neat stuff there but it has all changed by now.
I liked Austria better, I used to go there each year
Same an aunt with her family, each vacation they hit for the mountains, as in our province are areas where you can see Tuesday if Sunday your mother in law will come for lunch....
It's very difficult to picture what you are trying to make with words only.
Are you trying to make hybrid or unison leaner out of your current rigid rig?
You mention "kalich leaners" so it must be some sort of a leaner, right?
Zero trail thing confuses me.
In any case, for leaners, I always recommend Flexit Sidecar Owner's group.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FlexitSidecarOwnersGroup/info
This sidecar.com site is 99.9% rigid rigs so I don't think you go any further.
here,s the final design, in my head anyway,
I,m sticking with the triangle, having moved the front point back to the head stem to rear wheel measure point, mainly to stay in Australian build standards parameters concerning machine widths
have dropped the leading link, till the outfit is built and tested at least,
I will be using a 19" wheel for the chair, so pivot point heights will be worked off that,
and will be incorporating the trapezoid into the front pivot point to push/pull the front of the unit into the corners
I have to finish a full rebuild on another bike first, then into this
thanks to all for helping square it up
Geof, a scematic drawn by hand would clear up a lot as we have had here quite often.
i love rigid sidecars as I can lift it above the bad potholes. A kind of trike or inversed one like Can-am are perfect hole searchers. Every hole is yours, kachunk!!!
Sven
Give us a day or two,, I, m not much good as an artist, but I, ll give it a red hot go
I re-read your original post.
Sounds like a mix of unison leaner and hybrid leaner.
> the bike will lean as per normal as will the chair wheel,
This sounds like unison leaner unless only the chair wheel leans not the chair itself. (Not sure this will still be called unsion.. semi-unison maybe?)
> and will be incorporating the trapezoid into the front pivot point to push/pull the front of the unit into the corners
This is typical in hybrid leaner design achieved by setting front pivot point higher than rear pivot point.
Then as the motorcycle leans the front of the sidecar moves further than the rear horizontally resulting in yaw motion of the sidecar.
I did this when I built hybrid leaner out of XS750 and Velorex 562.
The outfit will have a double swing arm if that makes sense, an arm that will move up and down for the suspension built into the swing arm that will pivot with the bike, that will make the Tyre lean.
the bike and chair wheel lean as one via a link arm fixed at a point under the bike and a point on the outer swing arm, the chassis and tub will sit the same height as the axles and not move Have done some very rough drawings, just got to get them on here somehow.
Take a photo (if too big make less pixels with a photo modification program).
Enter into edit your post and at the lower left corner of the edit screen you find add-remove an attachment, follow the instructions and done.
Good luck, Works well with a computer, should work with several telephone software, accourding to Murfey's law doesn't work with my telephone...
Sven
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Try this
Try this,, I apologise, I,m not an engineers drawer
hi fella,s, just letting you know I haven,t forgotten you, have been busy rebuilding the last project,
we,re getting close to the start of this build, I,ve rebuilt and redesigned this thing so many times in my head making sure I have what I want, having had plenty of time to think whilst rolling over some 100,000klm plus driving,
the basic idea is still there just tweaked a few pivot ideas
the bike I,m using is an old favourite of mine, a 1979 XS1100 , more to come shortly
Obviously you don't know what you're doing, the sidecar is on the wrong side. 😉
Seriously I'd be interested in seeing your progress on here.
