Hello Friends,
Mark Steakmaker posted a week ago that his Ural has a gear down and rear shift.
Does it mean that some Ural have normal 4 gears and in the mountains you can shift to 4 low gears as in old jeeps? (we call it here the pig's gear) in my 1960 willies 1st pig's gear goes at full throttle less then walking speed.... 3rd (highest) gear about 40kmh > great in costarican hills.
That is what I search for...
In the Ural Patrol the technical indication just talks about 4 shifts + rear., but if it has low gear shift set too it compenses for the lack of engine power and helps in steep hills incredibly. 4 normal shifts get here right in the back of our village above limit and no clutch or drum brake handles those hills. How is the 2 wheel drive with or without diferential and/or diferential block ?
If the low gear set is standard or extra feature for an Ural Patrol be sure it will become mine in the next few years.
Meanwhile I have to use my Jawa that becomes weak in the montains I'd love to climb more frequently. Each time I go up a work shop visit becomes necessary and soon the price difference will be eaten up by bills or working time.
I'd appreciate very much if you could answer me the cuestions.
Regards
Sven Peter Pan
Quite a few people looked at the post: Isn't anybody out there who can give me an answer?
Sven
You could do better than me for a great answer, but I believe he was incorrect in what he is calling a "gear down" and reverse. Maybe the shifting to reverse feels like some type of gear down as you do it with your foot, but I don't believe there is such on the typical Ural. Reverse it has, but a true gear down I am not familiar with. Contact Bill Glasser and you can get some real advise on anything Ural. (his site link is below) I don't see what you are asking about in any of the online info on Urals, so I am doubtful as to it being a feature they currently have. I am by no means a total Ural expert, so I'll defer to those who are. Check out the IMZ site, Wagner's, Soviet Steeds or Russian Iron and you can certainly find a total Ural expert lurking there to answer your question correctly. Me, I am just guessing at best, but I believe my guess is pretty accurate. If not so, I don't mind finding out the correct answer.
You may find some folks with Urals here, but for the most part I don't think you will find many. Some folks may have had them, had experiences (pro and con) with working on them, or know bits and pieces about them, but I don't think the hard core Uralists are here all that often. Maybe that is why your question hasn't been answered for you, so far. Looking at the online free downloads at the IMZ site may answer your question as well.
Like say, I can be totally wrong, and I am only offering a guess. Check with the sites I have mentioned, and you can probably find the correct answer quicker than here, as they are Ural specific. Good luck in finding out your answer.
Huey
Huey, thank you very much.
I will search on the weekend, now quite a few machines look for setup.
Sven
From what I have learned after owning a '97 Ural 650cc for a couple years is the bikes set-up for use with a sidecar have a lower geared final drive than a solo set-up bike. The sidecar rigs also have the reverse gear built into the transmission. Reverse is actuated by a seperate lever on the transmission. Mine has 4 forward gears and one reverse. 1st gear is always used when starting out. It is not a "pig" gear or we call a "granny" gear. You would not want to start out using 2nd gear. Would quickly wear out the clutch. Top speed in 4th gear is about 65 mph. (down hill with a tail wind) Comfortable cruise speed is 45-50 mph.
I've run mine through some rough and rocky terrain and it is only single wheel drive.
Some Ural sidecars have a two wheel drive system where the sidecar wheel can be engaged for off-road use only as there is no differential. On dry pavement this system would be overstressed during a turn and also prevent rig from streering properly.
Some older Ural rigs (Sportsman) had full time two wheel drive but did include a differential. On these rigs both wheels had to be on the ground in order to provide traction. "Flying the car" would result in no power being transmitted to the bikes rear wheel.
The newer Patrol is a 750cc engine but drive tran is still one wheel drive as I described. You might want to consider the Gear-Up model which includes the engageble two wheel drive system. There are some online movie clips showing this rig in action on rough terrain.
Hope this helps answer your questions.
Roy
Thank you very much Roy for the explaination.
My problem are VERY steep hills. Step 1 in 3 as in Lake district North England is nothing in Costa Rica.
The Jawa cannot be driven at less then 20-25km/h 12-16mi/h on those steep hills and pray not to have anybody or a hole in front. Otherwise the clutch will send smoke signs.
Sven Peter Pan
It is possible that an extra low ring and pinion gear might be availible. You should get in touch with Wagner's cycle and their online Ural chat group.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/wagnerscycle/
Lot of knowlegble hardcore Ural folks here.
good luck
Roy
