Has anyone used Hammerite metal paint and if so would it be suitable for a motorcycle frame?I'm rebuilding my Guzzi Le Mans 2 and I'm looking for something durable for the frame.
Thanks
David van der Schyff (Guzzi LM2/Squire ST3)
David,
I did paint with hammer finish in 1987 on my first rig. but it was a rats bike, so it didn't matter at all.
Stinks like hell => work only in extremely well ventilated area.
Lasts incredibly even in the worst ice and salt mud.
Don't retouch while curing, that would spoil the finish.
I did it in metal blue gray like many toolboxes come with.
In my eyes it would be a shame on a Guzzi Le Mans.
On my 1960 Willies I used 2 component Polyurethane paint and the paint job still is in very good shape 14 years later .
The local Jawa importer uses powder coating cured in a used kitchen oven.
One of these two options I would recommend
Sven
dump PS:
Regards to my cousin in Johannisburg. Katarina Steward /
You know if any member of the "von Schimmrigck" - family are still alive?
Grandmother had her last contact to her brother Hans-Egbert about 1917 in nowerdays Tanzania.
Sorry, its just pure curiousity from me and would be easier to find a needle in a hay barn.
Thank you Sven.
The name von Schimmerinck is quite common here - that's the nearest I can be.
Hello David,
Katerina I haven't seen for 30 years, my brother visits her frecuently. I once searched for the Schimmerigck's over internet and there was no way to find any.
In Germany seems no one left, only with a diferent writing. I allways am currious, because my second and third name are from this Granduncle.
And it would be interesting to get more information about where your heritage comes from.
Good luck with the bike. I allways liked the "concrete mixers", A oil cooler would do a lot of good at your climate.
For here in the tropics I am about to change to water cooling.
Best wishes
Sven
Sven
Next time I see a von Schimmeringck I will put you in touch.
David
that sounds good.
it is written Schimmrigck
In Germany and US you find them without "c" at the end.
Origin is, as I understand, Oberschlesien which is now Poland thanks to Mr Churchills match game in Jalta.
Sven
dvdschyff - 12/14/2009 11:57 AM
Has anyone used Hammerite metal paint and if so would it be suitable for a motorcycle frame?I'm rebuilding my Guzzi Le Mans 2 and I'm looking for something durable for the frame.
Thanks
David van der Schyff (Guzzi LM2/Squire ST3)
If you mean the paint that is sold as "hammered" colors in spray cans, I've used that and it's OK. Like any paint, it's not proof against some fuels and oils.
By far, the two best finishes for a motorcycle frame for the home restorer would be either two-part urethane glass paint, preferably black, or powder coating, either doing it yourself in a large oven or sending it out for the work.
I just finished a home-built powder coat oven and it's large enough for a bike frame. There are lots of powder coating companies around nowadays but I don't know about your area.
Here's a link to a very good site where instructions are shown for such an oven.
http://www.powdercoatoven.4t.com/
Good luck!
Thank you.The oven looks impressive.On the weekend I had a good look at a friends guzzi and decided on powder coating as it looks nice, is resistant to chipping and most liquids and does'nt cost an arm and a leg.
Dave
I'm curious to hear from someone who has extended experience with powdercoating. The reason I ask is that a number of years ago my son had a Honda Odessey with a broken headlight mount. I made a replacement mount and had it powdercoated to match the go cart. It got a lot of use and frequently sat outside. Before the season was over, it was obviously fading at a faster rate than the rest of the frame. By the end of the second summer, even with cleaning and waxing, it was more pink than red. We sold it at the end of that summer, so I don't know how it weathered after that.
I'd hate to put that much work in to something like a motorcycle frame if it won't last more than a couple years before needing to be redone.
SidecarMike - 12/22/2009 7:26 AM
I'm curious to hear from someone who has extended experience with powdercoating. The reason I ask is that a number of years ago my son had a Honda Odessey with a broken headlight mount. I made a replacement mount and had it powdercoated to match the go cart. It got a lot of use and frequently sat outside. Before the season was over, it was obviously fading at a faster rate than the rest of the frame. By the end of the second summer, even with cleaning and waxing, it was more pink than red. We sold it at the end of that summer, so I don't know how it weathered after that.
I'd hate to put that much work in to something like a motorcycle frame if it won't last more than a couple years before needing to be redone.
The science involved in the manufacture of powdercoating materials has improved greatly in the last ten years. The powders that have been developed nowadays are far more durable and fade resistant than in years gone by.
That said, leaving a motor vehicle outside subjects it to the ravages of nature. Extremes of temperature, humidity, wind, rain (and maybe snow) will fade even the best baked enamel paint jobs. But you already knew that. LOL.
Suffice it to say that if you use the guiding principles that I have derived from many years of tinkering with mechanical devices and systems you will feel better when something disappoints you.
1. Nothing is perfect.
2. Nothing lasts as long as first believed.
3. There is no free lunch.
4. Professor Muphy governs all mechanical and artistic pursuits with an iron fist.
🙂
The other side of the problem is that the red pigments are the most unstable color to work with and the most afftected by exposure to the sun.
Loon - 12/22/2009 9:33 PM
The other side of the problem is that the red pigments are the most unstable color to work with and the most afftected by exposure to the sun.
That's quite right. Also, at least when speaking about regular paints, red is always more expensive than other colors.
In powder coat, the metalics are rather more expensive, especially silver. Oh well, that comes under the rule that there is no free lunch. LOL.
gnm109 - 12/22/2009 9:57 AM
That said, leaving a motor vehicle outside subjects it to the ravages of nature. Extremes of temperature, humidity, wind, rain (and maybe snow) will fade even the best baked enamel paint jobs. But you already knew that. LOL. Suffice it to say that if you use the guiding principles that I have derived from many years of tinkering with mechanical devices and systems you will feel better when something disappoints you. 1. Nothing is perfect. 2. Nothing lasts as long as first believed. 3. There is no free lunch. 4. Professor Muphy governs all mechanical and artistic pursuits with an iron fist. 🙂
When I said it frequently sat outside, I meant on camping weekends, but that was maybe two weekends a month from May to September. At home it had enclosed garage space. Actually, enclosed pole barn space.
