Laws stating noise limits have been around since the 1920's. They just eforce them when there are a lot of complaints. EPA regulations apply to 1979 and newer motorcycles.
So this "the looks only" new law enforcement tactics may not work.
"EPA regulations apply to 1979 and newer motorcycles."
Thanks. I thought EPA reg was something like that.
So even if it comes to CA, 3 out of my 4 motorcycles are exempt.
(Not that I ride loud motorcycles..)
Originally written by Rockhound Rider on 4/30/2007 6:38 PM
Originally written by skiri251 on 4/30/2007 10:46
Does this apply to older motorcycles?
What if the stock mufflers are no longer available?
Is there an exemption like turn signals in certain states?The first time the rule/law is appealed on the grounds that, although the pipe is not stock, it is EPA approved for that particular make and model of motorcycle, The city could well end up with a few law suits for unlawful confiscation of personal property with out due process of Law.
What is law inforcement going to do, stock every catalog that sales EPA approved, after market exhaust systems. I doubt they will want to spend their prescious budgets hiring someone, just to make sure their list is up to date.
What company is claiming to have EPA certifications on it's aftermarket pipes? Certification is a very long and very expensive process. Most makers try to skirt the law by saying their pipes are for off road use only.
basically the street legal mufflers have EPA certified muffler legal for use on public highways or some such stamped right on the muffler
for 07 harleys there is only ONE legal option from stock for each model, for older years its hit or miss - basically if it has legal stamped on it and its in the catalog its legal
if the bike is from the 60's it doesnt matter
I have done some checking with local friends, and found that this is now a year old, and the current fine is $180!! Worse yet, it has spread north up the river to Taylors Falls, MN.
I have been told that enforcement is extremely selective and depends upon the attitude of the officers on duty and their feelings about motorcyclists that day. Pretty neat, huh? I would stongly recommend not revving the engine, or acting in an obnoxious manner.
Worst case scenario to me is having lunch with friends and having a "parking enforcement officer" (read meter-maid) spot the Jardines on my Venture/Sauer rig issue a ticket and having it towed in the period of time that I am spending money in a local business...pretty scary.
Not scary to me at all. I live on a fairly busy road and cannot express with words how tired I am of straight piped bikes going past at all hours. It wouldn't be so bad if they'd up shift, but attention is what they're after, so reving the engine and keeping the RPS's up to make maximum noise is their habbit. F'm em. I've no pity for them. If they hadn't made such pricks of themselves these laws wouldn't be getting forced on everyone.
I was helping a guy last night with his 1100 Vstar and we had to stop talking for about two minutes so a parade of loud pipe 'bro's could trundle past. Self rule doesnt' work without self control folks.
Originally written by Lunatic on 5/10/2007 5:50 PM
Not scary to me at all. I live on a fairly busy road and cannot express with words how tired I am of straight piped bikes going past at all hours. It wouldn't be so bad if they'd up shift, but attention is what they're after, so reving the engine and keeping the RPS's up to make maximum noise is their habbit. F'm em. I've no pity for them. If they hadn't made such pricks of themselves these laws wouldn't be getting forced on everyone.
I was helping a guy last night with his 1100 Vstar and we had to stop talking for about two minutes so a parade of loud pipe 'bro's could trundle past. Self rule doesnt' work without self control folks.
Amen.
Are you going to make it to the SKUNK Rally this year? Or are you going to use that "My wife is in labor" excuse again? :0)
I can't wait to see the breadpan up close.
I never know when my wife will have off. If she works, I have the kids. IF she doesn't work that weekend, then I can come over.
I don't think you understood what I was saying. If enforcement is going to be by looks only, my rig is parked while I'm spending money in a local business, and some eager beaver metermaid decides my nice quiet aftermarket fully baffled Jardines, should be ticketed and towed, I sorry. That reeks of GeheimnesStadtspolizei tactics, and that , to me is scary
But the statement was to "stop the offending bikes and check their equipment".
I still think your safe.
Peace and quiet?? High gas prices?? Check this out:
Probably they can come up with the sound system to deliver whatever exhaust note you like to the head set. Straight pipes, 4-into-1, V8, V12, etc. so that we don't miss the good old days. LOL
