Hi, all.
I'm looking for my first sidecar and stumbled on this. Reduced feom $9k to $5k. Seems like a pretty good deal? But doesn't have much info listed and I'm new to this. The way yall can look at a few pictures and rattle off so much info blows my mind.
I see the sidecar seat looks rough, but i would consider that minor in the grand scheme of things. Not sure what to ask or look out for. Any thoughts from the experts?
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You have all provided me with a wealth of info already just from perusing the site. I appreciate you!
Link is removed because I'm too new, I assume. Will email if you tell me where, or repost when I hit the required post count (3?).
one more post. I went looking on FB marketplace and craigslist in Springfield for sidecars and came up empty with anything that matched what you're describing.
Looking at the price, if it started at $9000 and is now $4500, that's a pretty steep drop. At the new price it's probably worth a look but condition of the bike is going to be important. I can say that there are a couple of good rigs on this site that won't require any major maintenance that are in the $8K range.
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Link is removed because I'm too new, I assume. Will email if you tell me where, or repost when I hit the required post count (3?).
PDB @nobodyspecial , send the link to me midliferider@aol.com , as I can post it immediately, and I happen to be the know-it-all regarding Honda Goldwings.
As mentioned above by Thane, there are very good Sidecar rigs for sale right on our forums, and....for YOU only (so don't tell anyone else) the very best Sidecar rig in your price range, 100 percent road ready, is the 1995 Goldwing w/Champion Escort ll that is currently at $ 8,000.00.....but.....I will throw ANOTHER $ 500.00 to the seller....in addition to the $ 500.00 I have already offered to him, so that YOUR price for this 1995 Honda Goldwing 1500 SE w/Champion Escort ll Sidecar will only cost YOU....$ 7,500.00
This sidecar rig being sold by Steve Ives is absolutely ready for the road....newer correct tires all around.....trail reducing triple trees to make steering easier....brand new OEM alternator, Firecreek double windshield, etc, etc, etc.
You buy another Sidecar rig for $ 4,500.00 or $ 5,000.00, and you will HAVE TO spend another $ 4,000.00 just to bring it up to the condition that this 1995 Goldwing w/ Champion Escort ll Sidecar rig is already in.
Don't wait.... this offer to YOU is only good through the end of this month....ends at midnight, February 28th, 2026.
Now, send me that link to this '89 Wing, so I can check it out.
Two Million Mile Rider
Exploring the World in Comfort
Okay, here we go... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1950360432447653/?rdid=DcpnWcOCW4KbcD7N&share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2F1C4CJ97apF%2F
This 1989 Honda Goldwing 1500 w/Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar as listed 30 weeks ago, which is a long time in the Facebook ads world, and has dropped down from an asking price of $ 9k down to a current $ 5k.
Things I can state with knowledge....a 1989 is the 2nd year of the Goldwing 1500's, and still had inherent problems from the 1988 model years. Nothing that couldn't be remedied, and not a bad year, overall, but not as good as the 1993 and later Goldwing 1500's.
The "seat" or cushion inside the Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar is simply that, a "cushion" that someone has laid onto the OEM seat bottom, so as to raise the height of the seat bottom, because the OEM seat in these Daytona 2+2 sidecar is relatively LOW, so I can see raising that seat height, from children, or dogs, or smaller people, so they can see out through the windshield of the sidecar.
The 69k miles on this bike is really nothing to be concerned about..."IF"...the engine has been maintained, but most importantly if the TIMING BELTS, or CAM BELTS (same thing on this engine) have been replaced, and can show a history of them being replaced....WHEN, and at what mileage, and preferably by whom.
WHY...because this is an interference engine, and if even one of those two timing belts breaks, it ruins the engine, as in...valves strike the pistons, etc.
It is not just a matter of miles on the timing belts, it is also age, as these belts, generally made by Gates, are basically rubber belts with thread belting infused in the rubber belts.
VERY easy for an experienced person to replace these timing belts, but....on a 37 year old engine, there is NO way I would even take this bike for a test drive around the block, without knowing fairly certainly, that both timing belts have been replaced....when and by whom.
One thing that does concern me, if the above paragraphs are not concerning enough, is it "appears" that the front end has not been modified. That is just going by the two pictures shown, and there is a brief video in the Facebook link, but from what I can discern...it does NOT appear to have the trail reducing triple trees on this bike, which means it will be more difficult to steer, and at some point an owner is going to want to make it easier to steer, so they will spend a total of $ 2,000.00 for all parts, and labor, to fabricate, and install these trail reducing triple trees.
The Facts, it is NOT a bad buy at $ 5,000.00.....as many of us know that Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar is worth at least $ 2,500.00 or more, depending on its' condition, and the bike is worth the difference, if it is in good condition.
However, what is missing in the information is what is important. Once again, people leave out very important information that a buyer needs to know the answers to before buying a rig like this, and it is left out because the seller has no idea that this information is needed.
Tell me about the full servicing and maintenance this bike has received ?
When were those timing belts replaced, and by whom ?
Exactly what tires are on the bike...front and rear...and on the sidecar ?
What are the date codes on those tires ?
WHO installed this sidecar to this bike ? Was it ever touched by the "former" DMC sidecars in Washington State ?
Sadly, I have more questions, than I do answers, and not being a Facebook person, I cannot contact the seller to ask these questions, and....there is a 99% probability that the seller has no answers to these questions.
If a person could get satisfactory answers to all these questions, then a price of $ 5,000.00 is a decent deal, BUT....absolutely plan to spend another $ 4,000.00 in changes to it....maybe not on day # 1, or even in the first 6 months, but next Winter you will want to make improvements to this rig, to make it better, healthier, safer, etc.
Two Million Mile Rider
Exploring the World in Comfort
PDB @nobodyspecial, I will add this, do NOT be concerned about the higher mileage on the 1995 Honda Goldwing SE w/Champion Escort ll that Steve Ives has for sale, because his bike HAS been maintained, and cared for.
These Honda Goldwing 1500's and the 1800's are well know to run in excess of 500,000 miles....not kidding, and there are many examples that have done that. I once made an offer to buy a guys 2002 Goldwing 1800 that had 535,000 miles on it, because the mileage didn't bother me at all, I knew who the owner was, and that he had maintained it.
Right now, the Steve Ives bike "was" listed at $ 8,750.00
For February he dropped it down to $ 8,500.00
I offered to kick in $ 500.00 of my own money, to make it $ 8,000.00
For YOU, PDD @nobodyspecial, I will kick in an additional $ 500.00, to bring it down to $ 7,500.00
That price of $ 7,500.00 is good until midnight, February 28th, 2026.
WHY is Steve Ives selling his Road Ready, Road Proven 1995 Goldwing 1500 SE w/Champion Escort ll.....because he bought one of my sidecar rigs, a 2015 Honda Goldwing w/Hannigan GTL sidecar, and he doesn't need 2 sidecar rigs for him and his dog, Cy.
Located in Buffalo, Kansas...in the middle of nowhere, which should be easy for a guy with the user name of @nobodyspecial to find.
Two Million Mile Rider
Exploring the World in Comfort
Very helpful, thank you!
