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Quote from labill on August 29, 2022, 8:45 pmI have a 2000 Yamaha Venture. I have been riding it without modification for some years. Age is now telling me to keep the 3 wheels under me.
I was told years ago that I can modify the front end so it seems more like "power steering". Can anyone give me any details if this I correct.
Thank,
Bill
I have a 2000 Yamaha Venture. I have been riding it without modification for some years. Age is now telling me to keep the 3 wheels under me.
I was told years ago that I can modify the front end so it seems more like "power steering". Can anyone give me any details if this I correct.
Thank,
Bill
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 29, 2022, 10:26 pmI have a 98 Royal Star with a raked front end. Steering is very easy for me (but I do resemble a gorilla in some aspects). I don’t know how the mod was done but there is a giant billet of aluminum under the steering head that might be how it was modified.
Alas, I am unable to provide details on how the modification was done because the previous owner who built it has passed away.
I have a 98 Royal Star with a raked front end. Steering is very easy for me (but I do resemble a gorilla in some aspects). I don’t know how the mod was done but there is a giant billet of aluminum under the steering head that might be how it was modified.
Alas, I am unable to provide details on how the modification was done because the previous owner who built it has passed away.
Quote from SwampFox on August 30, 2022, 7:07 amHi Bill, you may be able to source a sidecar appropriate triple tree at Machine & Design in Illinois:
https://customtripletrees.com/Yamaha.html#model2
https://customtripletrees.com/contact.html
Note: New steering head bearings are generally required with these trees (order separately).
Hi Bill, you may be able to source a sidecar appropriate triple tree at Machine & Design in Illinois:
https://customtripletrees.com/Yamaha.html#model2
https://customtripletrees.com/contact.html
Note: New steering head bearings are generally required with these trees (order separately).
Quote from AceinSav on August 30, 2022, 7:40 amHi Bill
I added the easy steer to my wife's first trike that was the Yamaha RSV at the time the only place I could find that had the tree was Hannagan
it is a bit pricey but well worth it. I also added handlebar risers. it's not too bad a job if you can do it yourself but you will have to loose your lower fork covers as they will not fit once the tree is changed
Hi Bill
I added the easy steer to my wife's first trike that was the Yamaha RSV at the time the only place I could find that had the tree was Hannagan
it is a bit pricey but well worth it. I also added handlebar risers. it's not too bad a job if you can do it yourself but you will have to loose your lower fork covers as they will not fit once the tree is changed
Quote from labill on August 30, 2022, 8:32 amAceinSav,
What degree did you use for your wife's?
Thanks, everyone for your information. I can now start the project.
Bill
AceinSav,
What degree did you use for your wife's?
Thanks, everyone for your information. I can now start the project.
Bill
Quote from AceinSav on August 30, 2022, 9:09 amas it turns out it is the only one Hannagan offer for the Yamaha and I'm pretty sure it was a 4.5
as it turns out it is the only one Hannagan offer for the Yamaha and I'm pretty sure it was a 4.5
Quote from smitty901 on August 30, 2022, 11:24 amMine is in Hannigaan's shop right now getting the 4 1/2 degree tree installed. Bearing and everything is part of the deal.
Hope to be heading home with it latter today.
Mine is in Hannigaan's shop right now getting the 4 1/2 degree tree installed. Bearing and everything is part of the deal.
Hope to be heading home with it latter today.
Quote from AceinSav on August 30, 2022, 12:11 pmQuote from smitty901 on August 30, 2022, 11:24 amMine is in Hannigaan's shop right now getting the 4 1/2 degree tree installed. Bearing and everything is part of the deal.
Hope to be heading home with it latter today.
good deal, you should be very happy with it.
Quote from smitty901 on August 30, 2022, 11:24 amMine is in Hannigaan's shop right now getting the 4 1/2 degree tree installed. Bearing and everything is part of the deal.
Hope to be heading home with it latter today.
good deal, you should be very happy with it.
Quote from labill on August 30, 2022, 4:40 pmOne more question.
Chrome Triple trees have a 6 1/4 tree. I see smitty901 has a 4/ 1/2. With either one do you know if the bike is still ridabel two up?
Thanks
One more question.
Chrome Triple trees have a 6 1/4 tree. I see smitty901 has a 4/ 1/2. With either one do you know if the bike is still ridabel two up?
Thanks
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
Another person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 5:00 pmQuote from AceinSav on August 30, 2022, 9:09 amas it turns out it is the only one Hannagan offer for the Yamaha and I'm pretty sure it was a 4.5
Is it a massive billet of aluminum under the TTT? I’m fairly certain that’s what Nelson put on the rig, but since I don’t have a parts list, it’s kind of a guessing game.
Quote from AceinSav on August 30, 2022, 9:09 amas it turns out it is the only one Hannagan offer for the Yamaha and I'm pretty sure it was a 4.5
Is it a massive billet of aluminum under the TTT? I’m fairly certain that’s what Nelson put on the rig, but since I don’t have a parts list, it’s kind of a guessing game.
Quote from AceinSav on August 31, 2022, 7:43 amso just curious what car do you have hooked up the your Yammy
what I found is when riding 2 up I lower the car as far as I can safely to counter for the rider, as Thane said without some ballast in the car riding 2 up can be a bit unnerving if you have a lot of twist and turns
Thane
yeah I do believe he put the Hannigan tree on it
so just curious what car do you have hooked up the your Yammy
what I found is when riding 2 up I lower the car as far as I can safely to counter for the rider, as Thane said without some ballast in the car riding 2 up can be a bit unnerving if you have a lot of twist and turns
Thane
yeah I do believe he put the Hannigan tree on it
Quote from labill on August 31, 2022, 8:21 amI have a Formula II. It has it's own braking system so when I take it off I don't have to worry about the brakes getting air in them.
I have a Formula II. It has it's own braking system so when I take it off I don't have to worry about the brakes getting air in them.
Quote from AceinSav on August 31, 2022, 9:47 amCOOL, I had the FII on my 1500 wing, I really liked it and my wife logged many a mile in the car over the years we had it.
COOL, I had the FII on my 1500 wing, I really liked it and my wife logged many a mile in the car over the years we had it.
Quote from FlyinMonkeys on August 31, 2022, 11:44 amQuote from Thane Lewis on August 29, 2022, 10:26 pmI have a 98 Royal Star with a raked front end. Steering is very easy for me (but I do resemble a gorilla in some aspects). I don’t know how the mod was done but there is a giant billet of aluminum under the steering head that might be how it was modified.
Alas, I am unable to provide details on how the modification was done because the previous owner who built it has passed away.
I have seen Thane in person...he does resemble a Gorilla, so he is telling the truth.
On the triple trees on Thane's rig, that is a Hannigan trail reduced triple tree, that Thane refers to as a hunk of Billet.
Hannigan has a tendency to use 4.5 degrees of angle in their custom made triple trees, whereas the trail reducing triple trees made by Bill, at Custom Triple Trees generally have a 5 degree angle, or up to a 6.5 degree angle, all depending on the model of bike they will be used in.
On both of my Goldwing 1800's that I personally installed trail reducing triple trees in, both made by Bill, they were both an added 5 degrees, and the bikes/sidecar rigs handled perfectly with the new triple trees.
Bill, at Custom Triple trees is the primary maker of these triple trees, as sidecar companies like DMC, and I believe at times even Hannigan, order their triple trees from Bill.
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 29, 2022, 10:26 pmI have a 98 Royal Star with a raked front end. Steering is very easy for me (but I do resemble a gorilla in some aspects). I don’t know how the mod was done but there is a giant billet of aluminum under the steering head that might be how it was modified.
Alas, I am unable to provide details on how the modification was done because the previous owner who built it has passed away.
I have seen Thane in person...he does resemble a Gorilla, so he is telling the truth.
On the triple trees on Thane's rig, that is a Hannigan trail reduced triple tree, that Thane refers to as a hunk of Billet.
Hannigan has a tendency to use 4.5 degrees of angle in their custom made triple trees, whereas the trail reducing triple trees made by Bill, at Custom Triple Trees generally have a 5 degree angle, or up to a 6.5 degree angle, all depending on the model of bike they will be used in.
On both of my Goldwing 1800's that I personally installed trail reducing triple trees in, both made by Bill, they were both an added 5 degrees, and the bikes/sidecar rigs handled perfectly with the new triple trees.
Bill, at Custom Triple trees is the primary maker of these triple trees, as sidecar companies like DMC, and I believe at times even Hannigan, order their triple trees from Bill.
Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
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Quote from labill on August 31, 2022, 1:56 pmRiding two up was my question. Got my answer.
Thanks, everyone. This was an informative discussion.
labill
Riding two up was my question. Got my answer.
Thanks, everyone. This was an informative discussion.
labill
Quote from AceinSav on August 31, 2022, 2:09 pmQuote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
Hi Bob
quick question, in your opinion why do you like the 4 1/2 better.
Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
Hi Bob
quick question, in your opinion why do you like the 4 1/2 better.
Quote from Thane Lewis on August 31, 2022, 8:33 pmQuote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
That triple clamp oic looks a lot like what I can see without removing bits. It works wonders for the handling of the rig.
Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
That triple clamp oic looks a lot like what I can see without removing bits. It works wonders for the handling of the rig.
Quote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 8:46 pmQuote from AceinSav on August 31, 2022, 2:09 pmQuote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
Hi Bob
quick question, in your opinion why do you like the 4 1/2 better.
The 6 degree required more unnecessary work. Parts of the dash needed to be trimmed away. Adding more cost. It did not offer any advantage.
I took the new tree out to today and road hard. passed ll my test.
Quote from AceinSav on August 31, 2022, 2:09 pmQuote from smitty901 on August 31, 2022, 12:01 pmQuote from Thane Lewis on August 30, 2022, 4:56 pmAnother person can be on the bike, but without a fair bit of ballast, even a Hannigan Astro isn’t heavy enough on its own to be as stable as I would like.
I am home now. The tree is installed an well tested. On my 2017 I had 6 degree rake.
IMO the 4.5 is better. it is fine two up. My sidecar is a twin classic and wife riding on the bike with me works great.
What I really like about the Hannigan tree is they CNC machine it in house. Build like a tank.
Hi Bob
quick question, in your opinion why do you like the 4 1/2 better.
The 6 degree required more unnecessary work. Parts of the dash needed to be trimmed away. Adding more cost. It did not offer any advantage.
I took the new tree out to today and road hard. passed ll my test.