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Sidecar weight placement...?
Quote from Rob D on September 1, 2016, 10:48 amThe Moto Guzzi EV1100 with the Velorex 565 has been a fairly stable rig for us, I still am terrified of flying the chair at speed on right handers so naturally I carry ballast to negate that action. I often wonder if I, not being an expert on the subject have placed the weight in the correct place and is the amount correct...
Just ahead of the car's seat I have a Pelican Case with about 60-ish pounds of diving belt weights, easy to use and contained well and makes it easy to pull out when Sue Ellen rides with me. There may be more or less, I should go weigh it again so I will know.
Behind the seat is a mid-sized car battery in a milk crate with foam padding around it to keep it secure and again, easy to put in and take out.
So have I gotten somewhere near the correct amount of weight...? Too much...? Not enough...?
I can still lift the car once in a bit, usually just in a parking lot or residential streets that are not busy, just to feel how it does come up and only at very slow speeds, swing around the corner and pull it up a bit.
Thanks,
Rob
The Moto Guzzi EV1100 with the Velorex 565 has been a fairly stable rig for us, I still am terrified of flying the chair at speed on right handers so naturally I carry ballast to negate that action. I often wonder if I, not being an expert on the subject have placed the weight in the correct place and is the amount correct...
Just ahead of the car's seat I have a Pelican Case with about 60-ish pounds of diving belt weights, easy to use and contained well and makes it easy to pull out when Sue Ellen rides with me. There may be more or less, I should go weigh it again so I will know.
Behind the seat is a mid-sized car battery in a milk crate with foam padding around it to keep it secure and again, easy to put in and take out.
So have I gotten somewhere near the correct amount of weight...? Too much...? Not enough...?
I can still lift the car once in a bit, usually just in a parking lot or residential streets that are not busy, just to feel how it does come up and only at very slow speeds, swing around the corner and pull it up a bit.
Thanks,
Rob
Quote from Hack__n on September 1, 2016, 1:02 pmPut the ballast behind the seat or under it. Forward ballast has a tendency to dip the nose under a hard stop.
Lonnie
NWSC
Put the ballast behind the seat or under it. Forward ballast has a tendency to dip the nose under a hard stop.
Lonnie
NWSC
Quote from Rob D on September 1, 2016, 1:14 pmHack'n - 9/1/2016 1:02 PM Put the ballast behind the seat or under it. Forward ballast has a tendency to dip the nose under a hard stop. Lonnie NWSC
Ok, it is only Just in front of the seat, not up into the foot well really. I have not noticed any dipping however, the Unit Forks may be helping that... No...?
So I should pull the weight bags outta the Pelican and lay them under the seat and some in with the battery behind the seat.
Copy that,
Thanks Lonnie.
Best,
Rob
Hack'n - 9/1/2016 1:02 PM Put the ballast behind the seat or under it. Forward ballast has a tendency to dip the nose under a hard stop. Lonnie NWSC
Ok, it is only Just in front of the seat, not up into the foot well really. I have not noticed any dipping however, the Unit Forks may be helping that... No...?
So I should pull the weight bags outta the Pelican and lay them under the seat and some in with the battery behind the seat.
Copy that,
Thanks Lonnie.
Best,
Rob
Quote from OldSchool_IsCool on September 1, 2016, 6:00 pmAs for the right amount of weight, in your driveway or otHer flat surface, step on the left foot peg with your right foot. Now grab both hand grips. You are now hanging off the left side of the rig. Try to pull the hack wheel off the ground by shifting your weight. It should be difficult, tho not impossible to do. If it's too easy, add weight as far to the right and to the rear of the hack axel.
As for the right amount of weight, in your driveway or otHer flat surface, step on the left foot peg with your right foot. Now grab both hand grips. You are now hanging off the left side of the rig. Try to pull the hack wheel off the ground by shifting your weight. It should be difficult, tho not impossible to do. If it's too easy, add weight as far to the right and to the rear of the hack axel.
Quote from Rob D on September 2, 2016, 7:21 amOldSchool_IsCool - 9/1/2016 6:00 PM As for the right amount of weight, in your driveway or otHer flat surface, step on the left foot peg with your right foot. Now grab both hand grips. You are now hanging off the left side of the rig. Try to pull the hack wheel off the ground by shifting your weight. It should be difficult, tho not impossible to do. If it's too easy, add weight as far to the right and to the rear of the hack axel.
Ahh, nice, I will do that... Good idea.
Thanks much.
Rob
OldSchool_IsCool - 9/1/2016 6:00 PM As for the right amount of weight, in your driveway or otHer flat surface, step on the left foot peg with your right foot. Now grab both hand grips. You are now hanging off the left side of the rig. Try to pull the hack wheel off the ground by shifting your weight. It should be difficult, tho not impossible to do. If it's too easy, add weight as far to the right and to the rear of the hack axel.
Ahh, nice, I will do that... Good idea.
Thanks much.
Rob
Quote from Big Tom on September 7, 2016, 8:21 amMy experience: I got two bags of Sand with the rig, 35 Lbs. each. They were on the seat. I thought,"Why ruin the seat", so I moved them to the foot well in the Hack. That changed the ride so much that I pulled to the side after about 20 miles on the interstate and put them back onto the seat..
My experience: I got two bags of Sand with the rig, 35 Lbs. each. They were on the seat. I thought,"Why ruin the seat", so I moved them to the foot well in the Hack. That changed the ride so much that I pulled to the side after about 20 miles on the interstate and put them back onto the seat..
Quote from SidehackRalf on September 9, 2016, 1:32 pmNot any room behind seat on the Escort but mine was good in the trunk.
Not any room behind seat on the Escort but mine was good in the trunk.