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new ural or new hack?

Hi Everyone,

I'm finally at the point where i can upgrade from my 87 shadow vlx 600 to something else and I'm excited! I really want something with a sidecar, but I could use some input and experienced opinions on my options.

I'm considering a newer fuel injected ural. I'd love the off-road option for camping, weekend nature photography, riding through the snow, etc that I don't have now. I probably won't like the 70mph top speed, but that's what I commute to work daily at anyways so it wouldn't be anything new. There is parallel highway that is 55 and only adds about 5 minutes of commute time and the sideroads are much more scenic and only had maybe 10 so I have slower options that I often use because of how bad traffic is here in northern Maryland.

I've heard and see the list of upgrades to these things over the past couple years from previous versions. They seem more reliable with these upgrades and yet people are still reporting problems that they fix (usually pretty easily by themselves which is awesome) that I rarely hear about with other bikes. I'm having a hard time finding reviews on the newer rigs that talk about potential long term reliability. I don't mind learning how to fix a bike and do all the recommended maintenance, but I don't want to be constantly fixing it, especially when out with the wife and dog and future children wondering if we are going to be able to get back home or not.

Well why not get a more reliable bike and just have someone put a sidecar on it? The cost and the time mostly. I'm looking at a newer bike like the rocket III or something with a lot of torque that could easily handle a sidecar. If I get something like that then I'd have to save up the additional 6-8 thousand before i could get someone to put a sidecar on it. It might be worth the couple years it will take to get to that point, but that's more time not being able to ride. I should also note that me and my wife plan on having kids within the year so I'm concerned that future years will have my money prioritized with other things. So its a gamble.

I've never been on a sidecar and there's a ural dealership about 2 hours away in Maryland and about 2.5 hours away in New Jersey. I'm sure they'd let me try one out when I get there, but I don't know anyone that has a sidecar at all either in town or on base. That was the other reason I wanted to know about fixing one myself is that no one is close by. The dealers that are nearby already told me they won't touch or any bike with a sidecar except for the one triumph place in Annapolis and they will only work on triumphs with sidecars. Annapolis is 1.5 hours away. The local dealership won't work on my honda either even though they sell honda's because its too old. They have a terrible reputation so I really don't want to deal with them anyways. There are sidecar courses, but they seem to be in Virginia so its even further than the dealers and getting through traffic in Baltimore and DC is going to make that a very long drive. I'm not complaining, but I think I'm just spoiled from living most of my life in the country in Idaho and Oregon and never having to deal with traffic.

Really what I want to know is if its going to be reliable enough and if its worth it? If so do you recommend one of the 2wd's like the gear up or patrol or should i just stick with a ct? Do you recommend a used already set up rig? I've seen some of them in the for sale forum, but the prices seem high and one reason I was looking at a newer bike is so I can finance.

Except for commuting, I suspect the dog will be riding with me all the time and the wife quite often. I plan on doing everything on this bike from buying groceries, to carrying golf clubs to well, everything. I really think it'll be great to grab the dog on my every other friday off and my camera and paddleboard and hit the trails or dirt roads and get pictures and hit the water after. What accessories do your recommend for a sidecar rig? Also, if I'm missing something or another good option please let me know.

Thanks!

If you are going to buy a URAL, a Tourist (single wheel drive) model will better fit your commuting needs. They will cruise at a higher speed than the two wheel drive models, give better fuel mileage and there is less machinery to go haywire. The original cost is somewhat less also.
The single wheel drive models can go almost everywhere the two wheel drive ones go.
The upgraded new URALS are much more dependable than they were 20 years ago.

Lonnie
NWSC

If you haven't already done so, you should read some of the Ural threads on the advrider forum. There are a lot of opinions and experiences written there both pro and con for Ural ownership. I have only ridden a couple of them very briefly so I don't have any real experience with them.

MCN did an in depth review of a Ural not too long ago. If I remember correctly they recommended against a 2WD unless you were going to spend 99% of your time off road. Also realize that 70 MPH is the top speed and that you will be Maxed out most of the time. I test sat a Ural at a recent open house. I stand 6'1" and I was only comfortable while sitting on the Back seat.

Here's an option..... Don't let the miles scare you.

http://easternshore.craigslist.org/mcy/5667956729.html

Thank you all for your input. I came across the MCN review and its pretty damning:

http://www.motorcycleconsumernews-digitalmagazine.com/mcnews/august_2014d?pm=2&fs=1&pg=20#pg20

It makes me wonder if they just had a lemon or if the set-up was bad or if that is just how many of these Urals are? Either way, it does not paint a pretty picture and is making me seriously consider putting a sidecar on a more modern bike.

One of the reasons many people buy a Ural is that they can finance it and they figure that they can not finance a motorcycle sidecar combination. This is not true if you work with the dealer of the motorcycle and they purchase the sidecar from the manufacture the sidecars can be included in the financing.
If you want some thing other then the Ural, there are many very nice bikes around that can be set up for about the same money as a Ural. On popular bike and sidecar combination is the Triumph Bonneville with our M72B, when done you are at similar money to a Ural but with a modern bike where down the road should you wish to up grade you can pull the sidecar off of the bike and put the bike back totally stock and move the sidecar to your next bike. This is not really the case with the Ural as a Ural motorcycle with out its sidecar has a very small market making the bike with out the sidecar really worth next to nothing. I point out the Bonneville as it makes a nice combination but there are many other bikes out there you could do this with, The Indian Scout with our Tomahawk would also be about the same money as would many other bikes and sidecars. We have also done the Rocket 3 with our Kenna sidecar but for what you are looking to do 2300cc might be a bit of an over kill.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
http://www.dmcsidecars.com
866-638-1793

Jay G DMC sidecars www.dmcsidecars.com 15616 Carbonado South Prairie RD Buckley WA 98321 866-638-1793 Hours Monday - Thursday 6-4:30

Big Tom - 7/10/2016 1:07 PM

Here's an option..... Don't let the miles scare you.

http://easternshore.craigslist.org/mcy/5667956729.html

WHOA! Just under a 100k miles...on a motorcycle!!! That's impressive, but I don't think bikes have the kind of longevity cars do right?

jaydmc - 7/11/2016 10:28 AM

One of the reasons many people buy a Ural is that they can finance it and they figure that they can not finance a motorcycle sidecar combination. This is not true if you work with the dealer of the motorcycle and they purchase the sidecar from the manufacture the sidecars can be included in the financing.
If you want some thing other then the Ural, there are many very nice bikes around that can be set up for about the same money as a Ural. On popular bike and sidecar combination is the Triumph Bonneville with our M72B, when done you are at similar money to a Ural but with a modern bike where down the road should you wish to up grade you can pull the sidecar off of the bike and put the bike back totally stock and move the sidecar to your next bike. This is not really the case with the Ural as a Ural motorcycle with out its sidecar has a very small market making the bike with out the sidecar really worth next to nothing. I point out the Bonneville as it makes a nice combination but there are many other bikes out there you could do this with, The Indian Scout with our Tomahawk would also be about the same money as would many other bikes and sidecars. We have also done the Rocket 3 with our Kenna sidecar but for what you are looking to do 2300cc might be a bit of an over kill.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
http://www.dmcsidecars.com
866-638-1793

I'm really glad you said that! I do need to finance it and I had no idea you could add in the sidecar. I went ahead and looked at the bonnies with sidecar rigs and those are pretty cool looking. That actually does seem like a really good fit. The scrambler setups look even better in my opinion and the knobby wheels might be a bit better for some of the light trails and gravel roads I want to ride on. The scrambler I sat on seemed to fit my inseam a little better than the bonnie as well. The rocket is a massive bike! I sat on it and it felt just right so maybe I'll test ride one of those as well. Its good to have options! BTW what would happen if you put one of the smaller sidecars on something like a rocket?

All of our sidecars will work fine with the rocket some would require ballast but all are strong enough for ballast
Jay G
DMC sidecars

Jay G DMC sidecars www.dmcsidecars.com 15616 Carbonado South Prairie RD Buckley WA 98321 866-638-1793 Hours Monday - Thursday 6-4:30