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Finally got a sidecar for the Shovelhead

Ha! She hasn't had points or advance weights for a few years, now. That is a good tip to keep in mind though!

Any thoughts on the best gearing? My transmission has an Andrews close-ratio first gear, and the mainshaft tranny sprocket is one tooth larger than stock. The motor is stock displacement and compression with an S&S Super E carb. My riding will include both city and highway. I figured I would put a few miles on it before changing any gearing, but I'm hoping I could get away with the current gear ratios.

Great find.

Here ia a list of S/TEP training sites...

http://evergreenmotorcycletraining.org/sidecar-training/step-national-schedule-training-locations/

kmev - 12/14/2014 9:02 PM Ha! She hasn't had points or advance weights for a few years, now. That is a good tip to keep in mind though! Any thoughts on the best gearing? My transmission has an Andrews close-ratio first gear, and the mainshaft tranny sprocket is one tooth larger than stock. The motor is stock displacement and compression with an S&S Super E carb. My riding will include both city and highway. I figured I would put a few miles on it before changing any gearing, but I'm hoping I could get away with the current gear ratios.

Well LOL never know may come in handy for other things...........The easiest and cheapest solution for me was to install a 54 tooth rear sprocket ran them for 20+ years like anything you will be down shifting just DONT let the motor lug!!!

Good luck kmev! keep us posted

The nearest S/TEP course is in Urbana-Champaign - a bit far to be convenient, but I will keep checking the dates and keep it in mind.

My bike has a rear drum brake with a riveted sprocket that comes in one size only, so the cheapest and easiest for me would be to change the motor sprocket. I do need a new primary chain, so I will do a bit of riding with the rig to see how the current gearing works and then make a decision before I tear into the primary case.

Thanks for the help, folks! I am looking forward to this. Today, I got the adjustable triple trees cleaned, repaired, and ready to install. This will definitely keep me busy over the winter.

LOL.........I should of said that I replaced the rear swing arm so I could ad a rear disc set up, kinda like how you replaced the points.......

Got the engine back together and the adjustable triple trees / steering damper installed. Instead of using the clamp-on '79-up rear mount and having to alter the motorcycle frame, I am going to use the CLE mount to "restore" the original LE rear mount that was hack-sawed off the sidecar frame. This will give the added benefit of a toe-in adjustment that the LE sidecars did not have. I just need to figure out what length to make the rear mount. I'm planning for a toe-in range of zero and up.

Once I figure out the appropriate length, I need to cut the base of the CLE mount off and weld it to remains of the original mount. Fortunately, they are the same diameter and wall thickness.

So the sidecar frame in the earlier picture is for an old LE or is that for a new generation CLE? I have what is in your pic. My entire sidecar is a L&W reproduction now attached to my '65 Pan. It came already attached but the brake line was disconnected. Before it was all over I ended up shortening the line by 8", also replacing the sidecar's brake back plate and bike's master cylinder. Somebody had gorilla(ed) the brake adjuster in the past. After some fiddling, they all work fine. There are a lot of bike similarities with your shovel, more so than with the Duo pans. I just changed my bike's battery while sitting in my sidecar. I think this tub is correct for up to '36 -'67 or so says L&M. My pan came from the factory with a steering dampener which is fully engaged. Man, this is A LOT different than riding solo. At first, I forgot it was out there and ran it over a curb! YIKES! I can't image making a fast 90 degree turn (yet). I have electric and kick start but the kicker clutters the area between the hack and bike. Mine is set up for 2-up with a buddy seat which also adds a rider peg in the space. My setup is definitely a "bagger." The right front highway peg is also troublesome with the sidecar's front support member in the way. I end up with my foot riding the (bigger than Duo) pedal we have. I've seen a few guys put it on the frame support rather than the crash bar using some bracketry. I can't seem to find a place yet that allows comfortable and symmetrical use of both pegs. If I ever go over I've decided that my right foot will probably stay with the bike for all the junk in the space. The bike didn't have rear crash bars which I reinstalled. Are you leaving yours off? Maybe not a bad idea. The rear bar also confines the area even more. Your windshield is fine, I think. I put the old style on and it rides on the arm rests a bit at the ends. I spread the ends to fit a little lower on the armrest sides but then it will still eventually wear there. I think it is on correctly, but who knows? I also have to unsnap the apron to raise and lower it for a passenger. it's not much extra but when everyone else fired up and leaving, I'm just getting back on my bike. I'm in AZ so our seasons are reversed. Supposed to be 77F tomorrow.... neener, neener. Thanks for a look at your great bike! - AZP

Finally got her together and on the road. It will take some getting used to accommodating the sheer size of the thing - I hit a curb in a right-hander on the first voyage. Did stop on the way home to pick up some diving gear. Couldn't do that before.

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Great work! Enjoy the new lifestyle!